Harvest on Oct 17 wasn’t done by me, Oct 25 and Nov 1 was. Blue and green strips.
Nov 1 was on a cratered Deere 6000 receiver and a snow encrusted yield monitor, not sure why anything mapped.
North of that E/W Nov 1 pass is standing, if you want to call 90% of it 0 degrees to the ground under snow standing.
South of it is 28.5’ swathes cut full length crossing that middle of the field N/S pass.
So about 70% swathed of what’s left.
Will be an interesting test, swath vs leave.
Maybe should do a which way better poll?! (I did)
Field is rolled and started lodging mid July simply due to being a thick stand. Elie wheat. Currently so much snow on the field it’s tough to see the heavy swathes.
The 1/4 across the road from my yard to the south is an untouched canola stand but not mine nor my renters.
Background satellite pic not from last year.
If I had a mulligan on the year we had some cereals out I’d just put a match to it.
The ground stayed saturated and would not harden up. Ended up a wet-ish spring and didn’t get it seeded either.
At least with you on it while the farmer is busy seeding and conditions do get good enough it can get done.
It is amazing how quick you can seed a field after you burn it. I watched a neighbor once burn off a very wet wheat field and I think the next day he seeded the whole thing. The black color and lack of straw dries the surface fast.
Did some barley spring thresh for a friend three years ago, all straight cut @ 315 degrees.
Had to go quite slow to get 98% ish of it. But he seeded the field a couple of days later, in spite of having to pull the truck out with the combine.
For us its year 5 of spring threshing upwards of 700 acres again. This time no standing crop its all swathed as luck would have it we finished up swathing during the snowstorm Nov 2.
5 years And every year different results. Have roughly 370 acres of barley and 320 of wheat. So far wheat doesn't look bad but barley looks like it going to be 0 yeild. Checked swaths behind my house here and you cant even see the swathes under almost 2 feet of snow nearly half to two thirds of the grain has been eaten up by mice. Cant say for sure if this is everywhere in the field but it dont look good.
It was a tough one again this year ..Had to steal every acre however wet it was. Seen the other day that we are both still drying ... We feel for you that you couldn"t get it off.
I really think variety played a key roll here. We had Brandon Muchmore and viewfield wheat varieties and Viewfield was giving us all kinds of trouble thrashing. High amounts of whitecaps in the samples. Many in our area were having difficultly with viewfield this year. don't know if it just didn't finish maturing or what it was. Had trouble with both combines. Adjusted the concave up o the 590 till rub bars ticked. 760 was a little more difficult to get as cebis has tight control over this setting but we were able to fool it to get the concave closer with Jasons help.
I really think variety played a key roll here. We had Brandon Muchmore and viewfield wheat varieties and Viewfield was giving us all kinds of trouble thrashing. High amounts of whitecaps in the samples. Many in our area were having difficultly with viewfield this year.
Funny you should say that, I found exactly the same thing.
Viewfield through cab window (never cleaned, 130 sep hrs!)
However, in order to get to that sample, you have to...
max cylinder speed, 880 loaded = to 1100 old cylinder.
min concave space
hydraulic intensive threshing bar in
hydraulic threshing concave cover closed
I think even the ZAPS (zero degree APS caps) serrated leading edge help strip wheat out of the head at such high cylinder speeds
round bar APS concave but closed
15% ish moisture
While it’s fairly clean with that aggressive a settings I’m surprised there are no cracks, dockage under 0.5%.
Not only hard to thresh, hard to crack.
Upper hopper cam just before being submerged.
About 500 kg more after it is cab hopper kicks in. Somebody told me.
As to snow cover
Looking straight west down that green path in post #1.
Kinda cheating, while the heavy snowfall warning was withdrawn we did get the 10-15 cm overnight.
Field was running in the 7 t/ha area but has 1200 t/ha of water/snow equivalent on it atm..
Just curious. When you have enough mice to wreck a field of barley over winter, what the hell do you do when you gets seeding it again in the spring? Don't they wreck the seeded stuff also? I have seen youtube videos of the mice problems in Aus. Does it looks similar?
Mice droppings in the grain sample will likley also be a big problem. Hopefully it is better than you think. That creature has such a ability to multiply when conditions or right and the predators can not get to them when stuff is under the snow. Hopefully crop insurance will help you out.
I dont know what crop insurance will do. still having issues with them for last springs canola crop we harvested. They came and inspected the canola samples and graded it a 2 once its cleaned but have taken samples to cleaning plants and not one of them want to risk even bringing it in due to the hantavirus that could exist. Its only around 2000 bushels but still. The woes of farming.
Mice can eat through a hundred bushel crop and this year could be one of those years but not usually. Heavy snow cover and say this snow last till mid april they can still do a lot more damage. Some of my barley has been laying in a swath since September 10th of 19 so they had a very early start. Usually by the time spring comes along and snow disappears a lot of the mice will have move on. Its not like everyone in our area has crop left out so so there's not huge amount of areas for the mice to mass produce like you can see in Aus.
Never thought of that angle Brian, in my case the wheat was swathed just before the snow that has stayed ever since.
Some swathed with snow already on it. Swather research you understand.
Such late swathing could possibly help keep mice numbers down.
My kid brought a book home from school one time to read, was about predators and had a page on mice and how they feed the predators. I can't remember the exact numbers, but from one pair of mice(male and female obviously!) within a year could produce offspring in the range of 100,000. That wasn't all directly from the pair, but went something like this, gestation only lasts a couple weeks, they have 6-8 babies, within a few days they can get pregnant again while still nursing the first batch, by the time the next batch is born the first batch can become pregnant, and the cycle continues. It was both amazing and disgusting at the same time.
Two falls ago I never saw a mouse while picking bales, last spring they were everywhere. I hate them but know they are necessary for the predators to survive. I had up to 3 traps in my combine until I found the hole in a rubber boot that was out of sight.
I didn’t get the poll properly set up initially with a multi question/multi vote poll making it difficult to follow, didn't know I could, so I’ll do the math at this point, I also can not alter poll close date/time.
I’ll just divide each category out separately and you said...
Swathed...
A. 56% will yield more
B. 80% grade worse
C. 66% easier to harvest
D. 75% weigh less
I added a late question if you liked the multi question/multi vote poll format but only got one vote, 100% liked it!
I fully agree it will grade worse and weigh less, iffier on harvestability or yield.
Since we are on the subject of mice damage and some of you were wondering if crop insurance will do anything, the answer is no (at least in Alberta). I have had this argument for 4 years with AFSC that they are not taking into account the damage that mice and deer do to crop left out but it falls on deaf ears. Basically the crop and grade loss over the last four years coupled with the markets and low yields has meant that on our farm 5 crop years have turned in 4 income years. If I had my choice this spring I would only take the baler out but I know full well AFSC will make us combine.
Anyone in Western Canada done any spring threshing in 2020?
My guess is likely not, the areas where that would be possible also likely finished last fall.
Never know.
Elk preferred not having to bend over at the start of the winter. They ate everything that was standing until that ran out. Now they are pawing at the stuff the snow knocked down. They harvested the entire 100 acres for me. The 50 deer helped too. Now before long the geese will find it and get the rest.
On another thread spring threshing of flax was discussed and how hard it would be to harvest.
Did a little road trip yesterday
7 km north of Drumheller AB right beside highway 9/56 at 4:00 yesterday afternoon.
Picnic harvesting material.
Local terminal had the first spring threshed crop Monday, happen to be flax (not this field but around Drum) graded well and 7.5% moisture.
Then there’s what I have to do
Not a picnic.
I’m sure there is some but I was not able to find any mouse damage in the swathes.
Leaning towards no lifters but likely have to harvest going west. Which is the direction you are looking. Field is rolled.
Not much snow left, 22 degrees yesterday, hottest day of the year.
I “think” the swathed is going to yield higher, the uncut side already has heads laying on the ground and will not make it to the hopper.
Don, when had the swathing been done, after an early snow so was already lodged some as I see what looks like little piles in a few spots and wondered if it was a struggle to swath what they were able to get done before winter settled in for good.
Also you must not have had much snow down there this winter or at any given time as around here any standing wheat is flat as a pancake across the field and canola swathes are crushed down pretty good.
The swathing was done just before and slightly into the snow that stayed. Yes. Some swathed after it snowed, the swath on the left the last swath made.
Thought we had a fair amount of snow but we went from pure white to what you see in 4 days, about 20 degrees every day.
Runoff less than I expected.
Thank you.
Wish it was as easy as that flax field above. Also as rock free as that land is.
I imagine faba stood well?
Good luck to you!
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