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We just caught the intake of our Deutz powered R62 on fire and burnt the air filters and part of the intake hoses out of it. We think that a heavy mat of trash that had collected in the back of the screen box that the intake tube fits into must have become un-lodged when we were steam cleaning it… and then after drying out it slid down and fell into the top of the intake tube when we raised the hood to check the oil before starting it today. Anyway we got the fire out, did some intake modifying, made a parts run and thought we could still get something done today but after making it a half-a-round around the field the combine once again looked like it was on fire. It turns out this time it was a smoke screen coming from the blow-by tube and from where it had blown the dipstick out the oil pan because of a tremendous amount of crankcase pressure. After taking what we had just rebuilt back off it was evident that we had blown the cab side turbo. We think that the heat from the intake fire coupled with the debris from the burning air filters going through the intake housing must have blown the oil seal in the turbo and allowed both the turbo to completely fail and it to charge the crankcase with exhaust. Anyway, this is the only combine that we have that is set-up for grass seed and to be completely honest it needs to be back in the field by noon tomorrow. I realize that this probably isn’t possible but need to get it going ASAP regardless. We live in southwest, Mo and were just curious if anyone might know of anyplace in the somewhat near vicinity (the Midwest) that may have one ready to go….. or for that matter were a salvaged twin-turbo Deutz powered machine may be that has an intact turbo assembly. The best we can figure out it is a KKK K27 turbo and the actual part number is “04185676”. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

Scott Cupps
Cupps Farms
Shell Knob, Mo
 

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Michigan Diesel i think is the name of the dealer they have alot of deutz parts on hand and are pretty reasonably priced.
 

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Is it part of the combine salvage man’s creed to not call someone back when he tells them he will? Just curious?
 

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We're very lucky to have a quality dealer like Schmidt & Sons within a 35 minute drive, thus why we run Gleaners. If everyone had a dealer as good as them there would be a lot more Gleaner combines and Agco equipment working today.
 

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FYI, Ru4, we HAD at least four dealers right here, within Great Oklahoma that were just as good if not even better, as Schmidt's. Nothing against Schmidt's, but AGCOreally pulled the rug out from under some of their finest and best, when they cancelled contracts with our existing Oklahoma Gleaner houses. This is why no new Silver has entered our state for nearly 20 years.
 

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I'll update sinse scott is slacking, No turbo supply place could help us at all because our shaft was broken and for a same day rebuild, they needed the shaft, So Scott ended up driving to Schmidt, got there at 8 at night, they fixed him right up, got home at 2 in the morning, I got up early (mostly to beat the heat in the engine compartment) and torched and drilled the broken turbo/manifold bolts and got the turbo on by 7, gave it a test run, then got all the darn heat shields and apirator back on by 10, Let it idle for 10 minutes, then put it to work, The rest of the engine sounded great, Ran like a champ for a couple hundred yards, and then boom, and lot more smoke and blow by, Stopped,,, pulled the turbo intakes, and the second turbo had done the exact same thing, The turbo shaft snapped in two just inside the compressor wheel.
( A couple turbo specialists said it was ok if the turbo got hot as long as the shaft didn't get hot enough to crack or become untrue so we checked and it seemed great but it wasn't)

We called Schmidt, They Next day aired the other turbo, (but UPS does not gurantee noon delivery in our area) but,
The UPS man is a good friend, he left early and had it to us by 8 , I had it on by 10, That poor deutz work hard enough the rest of that day to make up for her 2 days off. We are done with ryegrass fescue orchardgrass and wheat, should be done with oat tomorrow, For those two days I wished O so bad that I had cummins power, but now it seems so long ago.
Schmidt is a top notch gleaner dealer! I know a lot of guys complain about how far away there service and dealers are but Im afraid if we would have had the same problems with the dealer 10 miles away, we would have been down just as long. After all it took me the time those other turbos were in transport to get everthing on the engine read for them.

I was thinking two days is way too long to be down but then I was reminded of a friend with a almost new combine that is painted either red or green
and last fall durning harvest he was down for 3 days because of computer/wiring problems with his engine.
 

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Scott and Matt

That sucks on your part that the turbos gave out during grass seed time. This crap never happens in the winter when the combines are sitting in the barn. Glad to hear you got the R62 going.

Last year our R52 quit during beans, out for 3 days, so we got the F3 in the field and it threw the magnetic seperator clutch off so it was out of comission for 5 days while parts got machined back to original. I suggested to dad that we get the 69' F combine out and his exact words "We've got two broke down in the driveway now, if we get the old F out we will have three broke down tomorrow evening.

I agree with ru4gleaner2, there are some good Gleaner dealers in Kansas, I wish other brands of machinery had dealers as good as some of the old Gleaner dealers.

How was the fescue harvest in Shell Knob? Pretty crappy in Jasper. I heard of one seed plant only getting one load in this year.
 

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Bharper, where in Kansas are you? Schmidt's now owns the house in Winfield, KS and believe it or not, is our nearest Gleaner dealer and this is from the Noble/Grant County [OK] boundary. Our local die-hard Gleaner owners are going there, now, since the final closure of a parts-only house in Enid.

Three years ago, a handful of area farmers, including one I knew, had thought of starting an AGCO dealership near Tonkawa or Blackwell, but nothing ever came of it.
 

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I live in SW Missouri, about 20 miles east of the Missouri/Kansas state line. S&H Farm Supply is about 30 miles east of us and they handle a lot of Gleaner parts for the conventional combines. We mostly use Strickland Brothers in Oswego, KS. They are an old Allis Chalmers and Gleaner dealer that has always proven to us to be a real good dealer for us. It's about 50 miles from home though. The owner of Strickland Brothers told me that they service a lot of combines in Northeast Oklahoma as well as Southeast Kansas. I think they are the best, but that's just my thoughts. They keep a lot of parts on hand and they just know combines, inside and out, from the old 50's model A's to the newer R series.
 
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