2 are in canada. Its a 9070 (or 9080 I guess) with the compound turbo Cursor 13 out of the STX485 or whatever number T9000 that is. New NH numbers at least coming for 2011 with another change in emissions tiers.
Had CR 9090 demo eastern MB mid Sept. Neighbor tried in 60+bu spring wheat 35ft head 7-8 mph. Currently running CR 9070 ok machine expected a little more from it but still getting used to it big change from TX68.
We ran one at Watson for 5 days with our 9070s. Differences were horse power, extra rad, braced rotor drive clutches like on 9080, supposedly a larger gap from grain pan to presieve to allow higher wind speeds to help seperate seed and chaff. Feeder house and everything else was the same. We were runnning in 50-60 bus canola in november (damn tough) at between 4 and 5 mph. Rarely over 5. Usually about 1mph faster than 9070s. 20 - 25%. Liked fuel too, but i've heard its about the same as 9080 on fuel but higher performance due to compound turbos. Also has electric folding grain tank cover standard from factory, like lexion. It was impressive!
There sure is a big difference in stories. One ran with a 580 for a day and it was bigger but by how much I never got a good answer. Some said not much, others said quite a bit. I never saw it though I tried my best to get it for a day. A friend ran it beside two 9080's and said it was bigger for sure. They also said the fuel consumption was terrible compared to the 9080's. Beside the 580 in wheat they said the 9090 had one impressive straw chopper. Keep in mind in Europe when the record was set there was only 7" of straw going in the combine even though is was yielding 150bu. They spray growth inhibitors over there to keep straw short making it possible to take in that many bushels without taking in more material than we would here. Everest does the same thing but to a much lesser degree. Cleaning shoes is the only real significant difference I've been told. Hope we get to try one next year. I also read that the 9120 in Europe was able to run right beside it even though it has less hp.
Its has a Iveco Cursor 13 TCD engine with 591hp according to the weird ECE R120 norm. (Lexion 600 has 586) . Thats the difference to the 9080 which has a normal Iveco Cursor 13 . The rest is the same ...6,5m^2 cleaning area, 2,63m Rotorlengh...
I was hoping someone did a contest this summer with the CR9090 and the Lex600. But it seems it didnt happen.
Now I remember UK farmer posted the story in the lexion site. He had lexion 600, 580, cih9120 and nh 9090. He said lexion 600 still biggest, then 9120 and 9090 were the the same and both were bigger than the lexion 580(european model). I can't speak for him but it doesn't sound outragious as a 9120 is very close to the 590 so that makes sense. I too was surprised to hear it kept up with the 9090. I would also be surprised if it saved as much grain as the 9090 but he says all machines did a good job. It would have been great to have all those big combines in a good head to head comparison in one of our fields.
I would love to here how a 9120 can have significantly greater capacity than a 2388 when their rotors are the same size and the only difference between cages is the larger has 180 degrees of open grate area and the smaller has 155 degrees. The difference between 180 and 155 degrees isn't significant enough to boost threshing and separation capacity to a level that most perceive it to have since it is a class 9 combine. To say that the added horsepower of the 9120 forces more material through the same rotors as a 2388 can't be right either because the capacity of the cage hasn't changed significantly. The small diameter of the new specialty rotor isn't going to increase capacity as much as it is going to increase efficiency.
Do a 9120 and a 2388 really have the same size rotor!? I don't know much about the red machines but I have demod a 9120 and it a pretty big combine. I can't find the thread but I remember reading it so I'm just relaying what I read. I can see how the case drive may be more efficient than the cr which is the only way I could see it being possible.
my brother ran our cr9080 with a 40ft Macdon and had trouble feeding. Nightmare on the first day but it got better after some mods. I just can't see the need for more hp. maybe we just need bigger concave sheer bolts
We harvest with 586hp on our combine and we succeed to bring it down with acceptable losses and a good sample in the bin. When the engine is at 100% although you could go faster with ur current settings, more hp is ok.
but as I said, it depends on your crops. With 100bu/ac you wont need it.
Thanks for the post. It's nice to hear from someone who has gotten to demo those two big machines. Now if the big new deere would come out to play! I can't wait to demo the 9090 against our 590's I think it should be very close.
I'm over in the Uk and we ran a demo (driven by us and the main Europe demo man) 9090 with our 600 this season. Both have 35f headers and the ran next to each over in a 4tonne acre wheat crop.
When the sun was out and it was a nice day there wasn't much in it and they both went very well. BUT! When we had a small shower of rain that stopped us for a couple of hours. When we started again the Lexion was every bit 10% better if not more. even though it is slightly less Hp the lexion engine is evil and does not give up! The same happened when the sun went down. The hybrid system of the Claas in our damp European conditions takes some beating.
Thats not all though as about a month later the stripes from the losses out the back of the 9090 when it was working in the damp were shocking.
I have some picture somewhere I will dig out.
This harvest we have moved to another 600 with a 40 footer.