New Holland/ Miller Sprayers
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just bought a rear boom 275r with duals will get it this spring was quite a bit cheaper then the hydrostatic driven units and also lighter no expirence with it yet but transaxial on this forum has a redball you could check that out its the same thing as nh
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Had one for a year and half now, quite happy with it couldn't afford green or red. Does everything it's supposed to do but it is not lighter than the rest they are about same weight as 4830 deere
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We have had some issues with our Condor A40, mostly with welds that didnt have any penetration and just peeled away over time, lost a wheel three or four years ago and piled up the diff this spring. When it works, it works good, when it doesn't it's a headache. One really nice thing is you can source many parts with versatile dealers if your New Holland/Miller dealer cant get you parts when you need them.
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The chassis and I beleive the transmission is the same in versatile,new holland and miller cab is different New holland claims they redesigned the cab more comfortable and user friendly and quiet then what the miller used to be Sales guy told me so might just be their sales pitch more then anything I compared the dry weight to the 4940 the deere weighs 35,770 with 120 ft boom and the new holland 275r sits at 28,500 120 ft boom the biggest case IH is 28,900 120 ft boom. Now keep in mind that the 240 r has only 42 inch clearance where the 275r with the drop boxes has 49
Thanks for the info. As I understand they changed the cab on the 2014 models. Before that they have the jobber john deere cab's which are the same one's as the 9600 combines and I don't think there is to much wrong with them. My biggest issue so far is that the dealers seem to think that there worth **** near as much as a red or green one and I tried to tell them they should be comparing them to the apache's because that's there closest 2wd competition.
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They seem nuts on Apache to me also.
It seems no matter how you build a sprayer it costs a similar amount of money. They still all require a frame, tank, booms, plumbing, cab, electronics and a drive train.
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The 2014 274r I bought was quite a bit cheaper then the 4940 I looked at these units can be ordered with a front wheel assist Looked at that option too for an extra 24,000 but the rep said since there is 70% of the weight on the rear wheels the ones that actually propel the unit it's not worth the money so settled for two wheel drive with duals Also one doesn't have to add duals some put floaters on the back Reason I went duals is to drive onto a block throw the outside wheels off and away I go
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Where does a person find out sprayer weights and balance? Some companies (like Miller) don't seem to publish it in their sales literature.
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a 4365 Miller will come in about 32000 lbs empty and a TS 16 Hagie will come in @ 30500 lbs. We went with Miller since we are all custom spray. The 4240 we have comes in at 28000 lbs
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Hey mate I have the sx275. How are you finding the new versatile sprayers. An has there price gone up
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Nimala
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I like the front ladder, the cab is nice(big), it rides smooth and quiet. It feels a bit heavy in the field, I added duals. The boom seems well designed, it follows the ground nicely. Been good so far, a couple of setup issues that had to get fixed, but I suppose thats normal on a new machine.
I think they should have added some storage places in the cab. Theres no place to even put your cell phone. I also wish they had made the boom raise higher in transport at the rear, its low enough that I still have to duck under nozzles.
I dont know if the price has gone up, I never priced the older ones before.
The price seemed ok. I bought a new versatile for the price of a used 1000hr+ other brand. I just hope resale isnt too bad on these in a few years.
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ya resale is a fear of mine as well being that its only 2wd but for the price I got it compared to deere and case it might work out ok on that end what are guys doing that have a dual kit and they go spray fungicide or insecticide in high crop with that dual hub sticking out a foot 30 inches from the ground?
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In my crops I dont think that hub sticking out makes any difference. I grow lentils, peas, barley and wheat
What model do you have?
I was told there are only a 3 or 4 new models sold in Canada, I think they are a really well built sprayer, I kinda hope they catch on a bit better than that.
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