New John Deere Conventional ??

Gee Guru and Hillco........these guys just got here.......and you're already talking of "demo's."

LOL!

Really, I know what you all mean.

Sam, that was already done. Deere ran both walkers with rotors concurrently, for a few years, before finally phasing them out, as did all the other manufacturers.

The rotary revolution was good for everyone, except Gleaner, which had had such a poor reputation with the first generation of N's, even into their fourth year, that dropping the conventionals, really hurt Deutz-Allis' sales.

The other combine manufacturers also graduated in the rotaries, after a while. The revolution was over, although Deere was the last bastion for walkers, until just 2-3 years ago.

Guru: Nobody has em avaiable for demo yet, which is why we're still exploring. My dad prefers a walker machine over a rotary...mainly because it's all we've ran. Kinda falls into the can't teach an old dog new tricks category

I think that the new conventional will sell if deere allows a 2-3year window for people to see that it's good. Everything i've heard is that the 9650W's had electrical problems and around here most people are afraid of them because of the rumor mill at the coffee shop.

We have been running two of the T670 since the last part of June with great scuess. This machine has proved to be more than we were expecting. These two machines have been up and down the valley and been in the field with everyting from 7700, 9650,60,70STS, CX8070 AND 8010. Average ground speed in fescue was 3.2-3.5 with high quality straw for bailing and wonderful looking seed sample in the tank. We have been able to obtain 5-20% clean out depending on what the customer wants. I just came back from the field we were running in tonight with 4 9600 3 9650STS and 1 CX8070. Customer was very happy with what he saw out of the back of the machine and what was in the tank. 3 week ago in fescue with the 8010s we were running at 3.7 mph and the 8010 was at 3.5mph and the customer told the salesman he could almost bag the seed in the tank. I will get the bushel weight numbers i have at work but so far this has been great. We have had 2 of these machines since may. This should be a great grass seed machine. As ryegrass slows down we will be installing rubber concaves so we can go into clover seed to see how it will do. Pics to follow.

The T670 really has me interested - there are several good clips and info about it on youtube.

I inquired with my local dealer and he said that it has appeared on the 09 model yr. price list

If you go to JDparts and type in T670 you can look at the parts diagrams of it. It has a alot of 96xx walker traits to it.

Good features: 9 L engine rated at 360 hp (Tim Taylor Grunt)

walkers with changeable grids and wood block bearings (finally)

2 speeds on the power separator and replaceable grates - no need to pull it all out

the front overshot beater is serviceable from above

a good chopper and chaff spreader


For us here in the midwest a few problems I see:

no variable speed feeder house system for corn heads

no duals or large rear tires - 600 65r28 is largest rear

I am unsure of what concave you can get - full wire or half wrap wires like 9xxx walkers came with

wish the 3.3 bu unload was available.

there are alot of parts that begin with Z or AZ prefix, are they readily available in the U.S.?

If this dude can hang with a 9770, burn less fuel and be reliable, then a T670 may be a bigger hit than some think.

jd

I have to search for loss behind my walkers and usually when I do find a seed I wonder if it wasnt there before the machine made that pass. You make it sound like the walkers do all the seperation however in fact if you dont have the cylinder do 98% of the threshing you will have loss, The shoe in a 9600 wont loose any grain if set up right. Ill give you an easy example, in heavy yield 64lb bushel weight white wheat I had a 9600 with 30ft head cutting 3.5 mph with 1/2 bushel/acre loss, the other identical 9600 with ZERO loss, operator of the first rig was pulling his hair out, could not figure out where the loss was, closing the concave from 2 to 1 eliminated all loss making the two operate once again identical in speed and loss, only difference in the two is one had more hours on the rasp bars and the moisture was still up from the dew. Both machines have the beater grate in the bottom position and no beater curtains. And another thing, EVERYONE knows rotor machines take more HP and burn more fuel, my walkers use maybe 80 gallons in a 12+ hour run in heavy wheat.