I was wondering when someone would post this site. Kind of the ultimate green bashing site. But then again case isn't going to say its product isn't as good a deere. Don't get me wrong, there is good info on this site. Its pretty good propaganda.
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No propaganda, just the facts. Quite funny how at the end of everything they pretty much say something along the lines of "That's better or more than Deere". Does JD have anything like this on their website?
Although they CIH has slower unloading speeds, their bin is a lot bigger (than deere anyway - not sure on Agco). You actually spend more time unloading in a day in a Deere because of the smaller bin than you do in a CIH. I think it's on the video from memory?
Few observations I made while looking through the site...
1. Nice copy of Deere on the use of a combine there with the same button design to highlight certain features.
2. Deere doesn't have a 4 model one size fits all... the 95(6/7)0 is a different size than the 9(6/7)70 and the 9(8)70 has a different motor, so not all the same thing, entirely. The 9570 vs. the 96/7/8/70 would be the most drastic change.
3. I will agree, their feeder drive is better, but how many total hydraulic lines are there on the machine?
4. Why would you want to bring all the crop together (tighter) then try to separate it again to get the grain out?
5. Out of curiousity, has anyone ever unloaded all the big leaders independantly of each other and seen what the tank will actually hold? Fill it up, dump, and then weigh?
6. I like Case's extension's for the grain tank, but will the vinyl wear out over time and crack and weaken?
7. Just a quick note, I wonder when we'll see the Case IH folding corn head? I mean the one in the video does say Case on the side....
Just a few thoughts/things from a mainly Deere guy, and I'm not offended I'm glad they made a site to promote their product.
1. Nice copy of Deere on the use of a combine there with the same button design to highlight certain features.
2. Deere doesn't have a 4 model one size fits all... the 95(6/7)0 is a different size than the 9(6/7)70 and the 9(8)70 has a different motor, so not all the same thing, entirely. The 9570 vs. the 96/7/8/70 would be the most drastic change.
3. I will agree, their feeder drive is better, but how many total hydraulic lines are there on the machine?
4. Why would you want to bring all the crop together (tighter) then try to separate it again to get the grain out?
5. Out of curiousity, has anyone ever unloaded all the big leaders independantly of each other and seen what the tank will actually hold? Fill it up, dump, and then weigh?
6. I like Case's extension's for the grain tank, but will the vinyl wear out over time and crack and weaken?
7. Just a quick note, I wonder when we'll see the Case IH folding corn head? I mean the one in the video does say Case on the side....
Just a few thoughts/things from a mainly Deere guy, and I'm not offended I'm glad they made a site to promote their product.
G
Alex, there is a lot of hydraulic lines on these machines. However you are supposed to be able to remove any line, without taking any other line.
It sure would be interesting to find out the actually capacity of the hopper on every combine, from factory. I know our 9790 claims to hold 300 bu, but thats crap. The factory set up will not fill the right side of the hopper, in barley and canola anyhow. The R series gleaners were right at the stated capacity, or very close to it.
It would be nice to see JD's put up a page like this.
It sure would be interesting to find out the actually capacity of the hopper on every combine, from factory. I know our 9790 claims to hold 300 bu, but thats crap. The factory set up will not fill the right side of the hopper, in barley and canola anyhow. The R series gleaners were right at the stated capacity, or very close to it.
It would be nice to see JD's put up a page like this.
Actually Alex they do currently have a folding head, in the 2600 series chopping heads there is a folding option on the 8 row. Also from what i have been told the folding grain tank will be available on the 20 series in 2010, which wil be nice. our 7010 is about 15' 5" tall tank up and we fold down a fair # of times in the fall to avoid the power lines that are suppose to be 16' but have stretched.
It's a 2600 series head. 2600 is the chopping line of heads, folding is available only on the 8 row model. The 6 row and 12 row are rigid.
It's a 2600 series head. 2600 is the chopping line of heads, folding is available only on the 8 row model. The 6 row and 12 row are rigid.
There are only so many ways to do things? Then why do Case guys keep complaining because Deere has a "similar" rotor? J/K guys of course I understand this being a tech guy... there's only so many ways to skin a cat or cut a combine for scrap.
At least the case engineers were thinking when they came up with their design and included serviceability in the thinking. I can't complain Deere's aren't overly complex but every little bit helps.
What I was talking about was the transition cone it talks about where it speeds the material up as it narrows the "throat" it passes through on its way to the rotor, why bring it all together only to have to expand it to separate it later?
That's what I mean, getting the nebraska test lab to conduct a test in the same field with all the largest machines and comapre for us, so we all know the true size, apples to apples.
I suppose without the extensions being out in the weather the canvas should last a few years, which is good to hear. I like the idea, but I cannot complain about Deere's system, 3 pegs and it's secure at each joint, no way a failure could occur. I'm the better safe than sorry guy here, sorry guys. Case's system is good though.
I see about the cornheads... Folding cornheads are the coming thing I think, only time will tell for sure.
There are only so many ways to do things? Then why do Case guys keep complaining because Deere has a "similar" rotor? J/K guys of course I understand this being a tech guy... there's only so many ways to skin a cat or cut a combine for scrap.
At least the case engineers were thinking when they came up with their design and included serviceability in the thinking. I can't complain Deere's aren't overly complex but every little bit helps.
What I was talking about was the transition cone it talks about where it speeds the material up as it narrows the "throat" it passes through on its way to the rotor, why bring it all together only to have to expand it to separate it later?
That's what I mean, getting the nebraska test lab to conduct a test in the same field with all the largest machines and comapre for us, so we all know the true size, apples to apples.
I suppose without the extensions being out in the weather the canvas should last a few years, which is good to hear. I like the idea, but I cannot complain about Deere's system, 3 pegs and it's secure at each joint, no way a failure could occur. I'm the better safe than sorry guy here, sorry guys. Case's system is good though.
I see about the cornheads... Folding cornheads are the coming thing I think, only time will tell for sure.
You got me there. Maybe that's part of how they get it to feed smooth? All the IH rotaries use a transition cone, so I don't see why the new combines should be any different.
You got me there. Maybe that's part of how they get it to feed smooth? All the IH rotaries use a transition cone, so I don't see why the new combines should be any different.
I have no idea myself, but apparently it works because they keep using it?
I have no idea myself, but apparently it works because they keep using it?
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