[RF]

Anybody been thru or in the middle of negotiations with Trans Canada or Enbridge ? What were you asking for and or able to get over and above what they offered ? Lastly, has anybody used CAEPLA to negotiate for them and was the outcome what you expected or better ?

 

[drylandfarmer]

CAEPLA is very good at negotiating for the landowner and working for the landowner's best interests.

When a landman comes to negotiate with you remember he/she is employed by the oil or pipeline company. CAEPLA helps balance that out as they are not employed by the oil company.

If CAEPLA has a meeting or information session, I would recommend going to listen to what they have to say before you sign anything.

CAEPLA was involved in a high power transmission line that went through my area. Yearly compensation for the towers doubled as well as other access and grass seeding isssues under the towers, liabilities etc etc. The power line company will tell you CAEPLA had nothing to do with yearly rent issues and seeding grass etc, but they can spin that however they like.

If the majority of landowners are signed up with CAEPLA they wield a mighty big stick and gives the landowners more power.

 

[skgrain]

Sounds like a good mediator from what dryland said. I think you need to be reasonable though as the original offer of 75 000 to pass through the quarter is absolutely insane to start with. Jackpot. The only tricky part is that land assumed to be on the proposed path has traded by at least that 75k mark extra and they do sometimes change the path. That hurts.

 

[8850jd]

Is this a line that,,, they dig, bury and replace the soil allowing u to farm over it? Or is it end up being a grass strip that stays that way??
I just wondered because it is a buried line?

 

[kenworth man]

Be careful if it's TransCanada you're dealing with. I have one pipeline of theirs and several from other oil and gas companies. TransCanada has some things in their agreements that others don't or can't have. When they spread drilling mud the guys say they aren't allowed to cross the right of way even though it was built in the sixties and hasn't ever had a problem. They have never said anything about me crossing over the line with a grain truck but it sounds like they could if they wanted to. Not sure if you know or not but you don't have to claim pipeline right of way payments as income.

 

[phishstik]

CAEPLA is very good at negotiating for the landowner and working for the landowner's best interests.

When a landman comes to negotiate with you remember he/she is employed by the oil or pipeline company. CAEPLA helps balance that out as they are not employed by the oil company.

If CAEPLA has a meeting or information session, I would recommend going to listen to what they have to say before you sign anything.

CAEPLA was involved in a high power transmission line that went through my area. Yearly compensation for the towers doubled as well as other access and grass seeding isssues under the towers, liabilities etc etc. The power line company will tell you CAEPLA had nothing to do with yearly rent issues and seeding grass etc, but they can spin that however they like.

If the majority of landowners are signed up with CAEPLA they wield a mighty big stick and gives the landowners more power.

Man yearly compensation for tower? We missed out there. Big line went through us back in Grandpa's day. I have no idea what he was paid but we've been staring at them for free all our lives.

 

[bud]

make sure you put in a clause to have the line put in with a minimum of 5' of cover and they agree to maintain the cover and allow you access any time with fully loaded equipment.

I have TransCanada lines from the 50's and 60's. They were 36" deep at install. Last year some of the pipe was only 16" deep. I can never deep rip and have to be carefull leaving deep ruts. Current rules allow TransCanada to impose axle load limits on any one they choose, INCLUDING the landowner/farmer.

It would be a insignificant cost to deepen the line with todays equipment.

 

[Darcy]

I was told this by Plains. Farmers are fine to drive anything across the right of way. But when we asked them if a contractor could cross the right of way with a track hoe the answer was NO if any problems happen in that spot the contractor will be liable.
They have the contractors so scared they won't even risk it. Its all bullshit cause a farmer can drive a super bee weighing 63mt across it and they don't care.

Also if it's a NEB pipeline I would try for annual rental and not the one lump sum payment.