[stevie]

It is advisable to include a farmer declaration in your service agreement or work order. It should require the farmer to declare (and sign) that all of the seed delivered for processing:

• was produced on the farmer’s own holdings
• will be used solely for planting on the farmer’s own holdings
• was produced from seed that was legally obtained from the rights holder

Seed Conditioners/Cleaners : Plant Breeders' Rights Facts


Plant breeder rights are changing. Be aware of the changes. If you clean seed cya

 

[bussard]

Bunch of crap..

 

[kirschenman]

I think the website is set up by the company that makes those little blue tags for certified seed! That seems to be the most important thing -have the blue tag...




If you were doing legal things before, it is still legal now. If it was illegal before, it is still illegal now.

In talking to a rep from a seed company, it sounds like it is possible to remit royalties on PBR protected seed that is sold as common seed.


I would rather get to end point royalties...

 

[stevie]

So a cleaner cleans a load of seed. Farmer uses half and sells what's left to a neighbor. Seed cleaner is at fault. Duh This is stupid. If a trucker picks up a load of cattle at a sale barn should he be responsible if there is a rustled steer in the mix?

 

[albertabuck]

So a cleaner cleans a load of seed. Farmer uses half and sells what's left to a neighbor. Seed cleaner is at fault. Duh This is stupid. If a trucker picks up a load of cattle at a sale barn should he be responsible if there is a rustled steer in the mix?

Actually when cattle are loaded the manifest needs to be filled out and ownership, markings and general description of the animals is stated and owner or shipping agent has to sign such before the truck leaves. So in effect, that is now what is being requested of seed processors. More bs, sure, but if it covers you ass, what is wrong with it? Or am I missing something?

 

[Andrew_D]

I would rather get to end point royalties...

I agree Andy. But would the variety be on a declaration basis? Or would there need to be a DNA machine that can tell you that the wheat sample is 89% Carberry, 5% Harvest, 2% Barrie, etc. And the end point royalties are then paid based on that?

At the same time though, it should be made illegal for seed companies to add a line to their contract stating that the farmer cannot save seed. After all, they are still going to be getting their end point royalty money....

Andrew

 

[crw]

So a cleaner cleans a load of seed. Farmer uses half and sells what's left to a neighbor. Seed cleaner is at fault. Duh This is stupid. If a trucker picks up a load of cattle at a sale barn should he be responsible if there is a rustled steer in the mix?

Yes the seed cleaner is at fault, so is the truck driver and if you used a neighbours scale, he is at fault as well. Anyone that had anything to do with the transaction. That is the way the legislation is written. And if you continue to read, they have the power to freeze your bank accounts, seize your assets and then decide to go to court to prove your guilt or innocence. And not just the buyer and seller but the seed cleaner, the custom truck company and your neighbour who said you could use his scale can be shut down.

But on the bright side, it did take Canada 24 years to sight this legislation.

So do things right and know the rules. Colin Wager. .

 

[Snipe]

Yes the seed cleaner is at fault, so is the truck driver and if you used a neighbours scale, he is at fault as well. Anyone that had anything to do with the transaction. That is the way the legislation is written. And if you continue to read, they have the power to freeze your bank accounts, seize your assets and then decide to go to court to prove your guilt or innocence. And not just the buyer and seller but the seed cleaner, the custom truck company and your neighbour who said you could use his scale can be shut down.

But on the bright side, it did take Canada 24 years to sight this legislation.

So do things right and know the rules. Colin Wager. .

Oh goodie so how much longer do we have to wait until wheat seed is in par with canola bean and corn seed.

 

[Combine Pilot]

PBR are coming off of older varieties all the time, they expire. Just like my equipment I will truly be farming 20 to 30 years in the past.

 

[SWFarmService]

It seems to be that way already, a guy I seed for wasn't using his head, he was looking at his agronomists nice legs, he bought up a bunch of wheat bread by Croplan 26$ a bushel and made him think he needed to be at 1.8 mill seeds per acre, over 2 bu of seed, come to find it is some disease ridden crap, got 3 fung passes and it has no residual on this crap and after he purchased it he was given the papers that he cannot retain any seed and there is no tec fee or royalty options, hes not going to put it in again unless it is like some sort of miracle stuff but what a joke, why cant ya just put pay the fee if ya wanted to use it again, the Jack wagons that sold it to him knew he was planning on retaining seed and for that reason it was planted on bean ground. 26$ a bushel should be enough to cover the royalties for a long time LoL, the crap a girl with nice legs can talk a guy into

 

[crw]

Oh goodie so how much longer do we have to wait until wheat seed is in par with canola bean and corn seed.

We still have "farmer privilege" in the bill. So you can save your own seed for use on your own farm. (Unless you sign up for some of that ip seed. But you should be informed of that when you purchase it.) So most seed right now we can keep our own seed for use next year and beyond. Just don't think you are a retailer or a seed grower and sell PBR seed to all your neighbours , let them buy it from someone certified.

 

[stevie]

Unless a cleaner babysits the seed till its planted, this year or next, and checks the rental agreement on the farm its planted on, he is responsible. Guess I am missing something. The farmer should be responsible. I guess get a declaration signed, and the signature witnessed. This will be for every load. And collect hst on the cleaning,and not on treat. With all the paper work you will need to work 16 hours to get paid for 8