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I am looking at spending some money on cts combines and wondering if anybody has tried the PFP beater and cylinder or one for the two, or any other ideas on better performance in canola?
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Go with sunnybrooke, the pf parts are knock off designs of the original designs by sunnybrooke welding.
Mike at PFP is a stand up dude, yeah the 300 acre guarantee says alot. As for a knockoff of sunny, listen dude we run sunny parts and have switched to lots of PFP and are very happy with the decision. Sunny is way higher and if you have a problem call Mike he'll work with you. Try to give you Sunny parts back after 300 acres.
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I didnt buy them counting on having to send them back within 300 acres, I knew they were proven systems and have been proven for many years. In reality sunnybrooke people dont need to give a warranty nor are they concerned that anyone will need to return or be unhappy with their parts. Ive had that guarantee/warranty/ He will work with you service before from Kuchar and down time cost me a mint when his stuff didnt do what he "Guaranteed" it would do. Sure he stood good for it but labor costs alone as anyone knows working on a combine is expensive, even when your not covering the parts.
Okay, every manufacture know has the go-ahead from davedan to cancel all guarantees and warranties, (wonder how this will go over with sales of new combines) if I was Sunny I wouldn't want to put a 300 acre guarantee on my parts either davedan, I mean what could they possibly do with all those parts that came back. Oh while were on the subject, I do have a Sunny rotor with very good bars (Gen II) for a class 6 or 7 transverse GLEANER that is priced cheap, need to get rid of it. Just PM me
Too bad that Deere doesnt offer the CTS anymore in northamerica,with 400hp and optional hillmaster leveling system,that machine would outperform the 9770STS in small grains.
Having owned 3 cts and cts2 combines I have doubts that any of the aftermarket parts will help you in canola. I did learn a few things about the machines in canola and deere does sell some parts that will help you.

If the cts combines have any hours at all on them, you want to replace the vanes that are under the intake end of the tine separators. They are key stock welded onto a plate that bolts in under the tube. With any kind of wear the canola will hesitate and not feed in. While the tines are rolled back you want to replace the "Z" shaped paddles on the intake on each tine separator. The new "Z" paddles from deere have grooves cut in them and are like fingers to help grab the canola straw (the old ones are flat steel).

Run your tines on high speed. If you only have the slow speed pulley, you will want to buy the high speed pulley (assuming your canola straw is very dry and brittle). The cts combines break up the straw badly and overload the cleaning shoe. You will want to use the blanking plates under the tine separtors if the straw is brittle. I cover the back 4 or 5 rows of grates on each rotor. Play with the cylinder speed. Some years I run at 400 rpm in low range on the cylinder and others run at 700 rpm in high range. You want to push it hard, and if the cylinder is too slow it will backfeed.

On the overshot beater, that feeds into the tine separtor I installed new paddles from deere that have a "V" shape in the center (they try to split the flow of straw into 2 streams to feed the 2 rotors better), but I am not sure if they really made any difference.

Because of all the straw on the cleaning shoe, you will want to have your sieve open a little ways and more fan speed than you would expect. I leave my cleaning shoe settings the same as I had them on wheat.

Overall the cts design is not very good on dry brittle canola straw, but they will do the job. Often starting much sooner in the morning when the dew is on, or as soon as possible after a rain will help a lot. Unlike straw walkers which will plug when the straw is tough, the cts will keep running.
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Actually, PF used to sell Sunny parts. They noticed the issues with the sunny cylinder and designed their own.
Issue #1- Shaft retaining wedge hubs pull the cylinder left or right when installing, making it difficult to keep centered. Plus they're a nightmare to remove if the cylinder ever needs to come out. PF solution- A simple bolt clamp hub similar to Deere original keyed spiders, but it's WAY bigger and beefy. Issue #2- Sunny bars have a rasp missing where the bolts hold the bars to the cylinder. The gap is big enough for a wheat head to slip through. Thats 3 gaps for every bar on the cylinder. PF solution- A bar that is longer front to back and the bolt only interupts the rasp, not omits it entirely. Plus it has a raised shoulder around the bolt.(I will try and post pics) Issue #3- The allen head bolts are a bugger to remove when changing bars. They strip easily and usually require heating with a torch. PF solution- Use normal hex flange-head bolts.

You can only buy a Sunny cylinder from Deere since they bought the rights, so warranty is 90 days from purchase. You might not even have coverage for harvest, depending on when you purchase it. PF warranty is 12 months.
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Here is some pictures of PFP cylinder and beater for a CTS.

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It took a lot of the wamping out of the machine. We also put their speed up kits on the beaters of the 9600's, it really silenced the machines. I really like how the cylinder stayed balanced as well. I did not get to speed a lot of time in this machine as I was running the Cat. This CTS was pushing a 30' MacDon in beans this year and handled it well.
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