It has an undercarriage suspension? Sure wouldn't know it if you ever have to go accross the seed rows. Desperately needs cab suspension. The shift between 4&5 is terrible. Neighbour says his is smooth but versatile tells me it should be rough. Wtf?Versatile gets my vote for the undercarriage suspension and Cummins power + a smooth shifting Cat tranny
It has zero suspensionVersatile gets my vote for the undercarriage suspension
I wonder if Claas is considering putting the far and away smoothest riding TT track system off the combine on a tractor?It has zero suspension
The bogies have two way oscillation, front to back and side to side. They don't have a bogie directly below the pivot like Case which helps the ride, but still not suspension.
Interested in why you would consider a 9380 Quad, SW?That tandem and osculation is suspension, it greatly improves ride.
My dad has an 865b and we love the grunt and the shifting
I finally got my 500 quad sold, it had an insanely impressive cab suspension but I fear the jolts the tractor will leave some sort of damage later, the design of the delta is similar to the challenger with the tandems, if you don't believe me drive each of them over a 2x4 and see what ya think.
We did not like the slow shifting of the case or its lack of power and love for fuel and def.
I am looking into an older versy with power shift to soup up, maybe a 9380 quad, they tell me the Delta has good lease deals, I didn't have a huge pile of money paid on the quad and with low prices I am not sure what I will do yet but we don't miss the quad
Back before dad purchased the 865b we had a 9380 on tires with an upgraded N14 running 525-550 HP, it was originally running a scraper, we ran it to 16,000hrs, it really earned its keep on the farm, only simple break downs such as starters and alternators, few small electrical probs, and some u-joints.Interested in why you would consider a 9380 Quad, SW?
A 9380 anything would be modern for me! That or a 9280 wheeled may be my next upgrade.:54:
Interesting!Back before dad purchased the 865b we had a 9380 on tires with an upgraded N14 running 525-550 HP, it was originally running a scraper, we ran it to 16,000hrs, it really earned its keep on the farm, only simple break downs such as starters and alternators, few small electrical probs, and some u-joints.
We were only using the quad on the planter briefly as when the challenger was done on the seeder my brother witch does most of the tractor diving refused to drive the quad. We also used it on the turbo till but the quad tracks fill up with mud so bad, maybe cause it has 30" belts vs the 36" on dads
We all miss the fast shifts that the 9380 had, most call them ruff but I love quick positive engagement, we miss the lack of electronics," no nonsense beepers and buzzers". We liked it on the grain cart a lot, I think we could put a suspension on the cab to make the ride tolerable, some of these same qualities is why I am also interested in like a 976 versy, not exactly sure what I want to do yet, kind of want to drag it out till harvest time to see how things go, I do feel a bit of a burden off my shoulders with out the payments with these poor prices.
That's a comparatively simple (other than meeting ROP structure regs) and relatively cheap addition, one would hope they would consider it.Delta works great for us. I can guarantee if you sat in both and drove both you would like the Case better but a 80-100k price difference made our choice very simple. Cab suspension would be biggest difference.
Do you have a direct comparison between the two units on fuel use? I have a 965C as well as tons of experience with the Iveco engines but I have not got a feel for fuel consumption yet. There is simply no comparison between the engines as far as pulling power though.We did not like the slow shifting of the case or its lack of power and love for fuel and def.