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I just purchase this 2188 this summer and cut about 2 days of wheat harvest with it, and this is the first red machine I have owned. I had it gone through the shop, and just got it home last week and decided to try some test cutting of soybeans. Beans were pretty dry, Im guessing below 14, although there were some greener areas. Anyway, I was cutting along and my alarms went off, indicating grain elevator, talings as having a problem(which it did, I could hear something ratcheting). I shut things down, and went around and opened the traps on the clean grain elevator and tailings. Both were full, and the tailings was really packed in there. I cleaned it out, and started it back up, and all was fine. What is causing this plugging, do I have the sieves closed down to far and I am overloading the return?
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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

return had all of the above, thrashed beans, hulls, stems,,thrash, didnt see a whole lot of unthrashed beans. Rotor speed was around 450, and concave was 5. Beans in the bin were very clean, probably too clean. Keep in mind these beans will probably only make around 15 bu, as we have been rain deprived! Ironic, that it rained about every 3 days in June, so much we couldnt harvest our wheat, then after July 5th, we went 8 weeks without any rain at all! I'm going to be gone for a few hours, but I will check this thread when I get home.
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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

You might want to pull the return auger that feeds back in to the rotor out very easy to check remove return elevator chain remove 5or6 bolts on outer housing pull out on sprocket an all will come out look @ flight right under elevator paddles if it's wore or housing is gumed up then all the returned material will just keep curculating till it chockes had this happen a few times
 

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Jim...sounds like your bottom sieve is closed too much. If your bin sample is "tooooo clean", I would do as others have said, open the bottom sieve untill you get some trash in the bin. I think you will find that as the beans mature to an even stage ALL over the field, then you can close that seive down to get that perfect sample.

Did you get my PM I sent to you 2 weeks ago? Though you had dropped off the face of the earth...LOL....hadn't seen you post for a couple of weeks. I tried some milo yesterday, clean with no weeds but not quite ready yet. 16.3 moisture,TW of 58lbs and making around 90BPA I'm quite pleased to say the least! Keep us posted...Larry
 

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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

Watch your bottom sieve! the setting is critical I have a 1660 and have had the same problem in wheat, Tritcale if it is closed up too much you have no leeway for overloading it doesn't take much then the wieght of the grain will force it closed
 

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Quote:Watch your bottom sieve! the setting is critical I have a 1660 and have had the same problem in wheat, Tritcale if it is closed up too much you have no leeway for overloading it doesn't take much then the wieght of the grain will force it closed
This one would have taken more than the weight of the grain to close, I had to take a hammer to get it to move! Is there a simple way to free it up, so I can just adjust it with my hand?
 

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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

Checked my bottom sieve and it was almost completly closed, so I opened it up quite a bit. Then my tank had plenty of unthreshed pods, so I must have went too far!:) Closed it back down a bit, and it is cleaning a lot better, and I didnt have any trouble with the tailings auger overloading(at least not yet). Still trying to fine tune the field tracker with the flex head, it works, but I really dont think I have it tweaked quite right, so need to do some more reading. Thanks for all the help guys, Im sure I will have more questions in the future!
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Jim...when I was having a few issues looked at on my combine a few weeks ago, we had both sieves out of it and on mine, the edge channels were PACKED with beards and trash. Cleaned them out and put some PB Blaster on all of the sieve joints and contol joints and they move freely now. Before, mine was like yours.....grab the big hammer! My little piddly pipe that they send with a machine was no help......it just would bend.
 

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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

Jim,

One problem with these machines is the return tube that goes from the return elevator to the rotor. If you take the shield off the RH side of the machine and reach in there, you will find that there is a big hole in the top of the tube! Any material that boils out the hole skips the rotor and goes right back to the chaffer, then back through the return again.

Take a piece of plastic or tin and cover this hole up. Hold the cover in place with a couple of large hose clamps, or bailing wire would probably work also. We used a piece of 6" auger tube cut in half.

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Re: Questions about setting 2188 overloading taili

Use your top sieves to do the seperating and don't close the bottom sieve below 3 if poss. If you get it closed to much it will cut off your air to the top sieve. you want to separate it before it gets to the bottom sieve. Heres the settings I used......

Rotor...................500-600....Faster if they are tough
Fan......................1050-1100
Concaves.............3.0-3.5
Topsieve Front......Closed
Topsieve Middle.....2.0-2.5
Topsieve Back.......2.5-3.0
Bottom sieve.........3.0.....2.5 is the tightest ever

These are the numbers on your sieves.Also I ran skip wire concaves in beans with no straight bars on my specialty rotor.

Hope this helps.
 
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