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Re: 1666 vs 2166

First off welcome from the dark side.....

You will love a rotor thats for sure

Differences on those two.....really it is just the cab and the electronics of it.

Everything else is the same....

the cab is a heck of alot better for one.. and yeah you want to keep it feeding well to help on the sample but i wouldn't worry to much

it for the most part is very simple to set these machines...

so if someone's tried to make it sound complicated then there full of it

i usually set the sives with my fingers and normally that works just fine

That machine sounds like a good one....Id still go with an 88 series either way...to be honest

do you see yourself going with an 8 row corn head?
 

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I run a 2166 with a 25ft grain table w/ field tracker and a 2208 8 row corn head, Duals on the front and a mud hog in the rear and bin extensions, It works fine, It has about 3800 hrs on it, we did replace the injection pump turned it up a little 2 years ago.
With a 6 row head its was fine but we had to load the rear tires to pick up the 8 row head. Case does not recommend putting an 8 row head on a 2166 but it handles it pretty well.

We have had a 1660 with a 25ft table and 6 row head and it did ok to.

The 2166 is a much nicer machine

I do see grain loss problems when tilted to the right, We installed a side hill kit that puts a couple dividers in the chaffer sieves and keeps all the grain from running to one side It helps but does not completely solve the problem.

I can run 8 row 180 bu corn at 3.8 to 4.2, 150 bu corn up to 5.0 mph, If the beans are running well I can run 4.5 to 5.0 if there tough 3.8 to 4.2 with a 1020 25ft table.

It is true that the rotor is more efficient and will cause less grain damage if you can keep it loaded, grain on grain threshing is better, but axial flow works well either way.

It is pretty easy to set up, Set the sieves with my fingers then do fine tuning with concaves and rotor speed.

The 2166 can run a little short on power if your running loaded and up hill but not to bad unless the ground is soft,

On the other hand if you can find one at a reasonable price a 2388 would be a much better investment. It has more power and more cleaning capacity and will run circles around a 2166 in tough conditions.

I way be wrong but I believe that the 1660 series is not set up to totally utilize field tracker, I think our 1660 ran field tracker for height control but could not tilt side to side and the 2166 is, I think fully functioning field tracker is a must if you want to run a 25 ft head unless your fields are all flat, We even put field tracker on one of our 2208 corn heads this year.

For the most part the 2166 does a great job.

Good luck Bryon
 

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Re: 1666 vs 2166

I wouldn't be afraid to look at 80/88 series machines if I were you. I think that if the money is available, you'd do well to consider the newer machine from a comfort and resale standpoint. I found that there isn't a lot of price difference between 66 and 88 size machines with similar hours, once they get to be 8-10 years old or more. There seem to be more of the larger combines available.

Here's a good link to what the differences are by year and model. http://www.hoober.com/home/axial flow history.htm

I was looking for a 2166 for about a year, before finding a NH combine that I couldn't pass up. Here's what I know. I have run across 2 separate machines and heard about a third that had some problem with 2nd gear and the tranny's had to be rebuilt. Both guys finished out the season with a bungee strap holding the shifter in gear. In fairness, the one guy has had a lot of other problems, including final drives, the hydro coupling spline, and some other miscellaneous. It appears that his machine may have been a lemon (it's not from abuse).


The 25' table should be fine for this machine, I would look for one with field tracker. You can add field tracker to any machine through Case for around $5k, plus installation. I've seen 30' heads on these combines, so I wouldn't worry about that. Either a 6 or an 8 row corn head should work fine. If you have rocks like I do, you might want to find a machine with a rock trap. They don't all have them, and I've been told by 2 dealers that the only way to add one would be to swap feederhouses with a combine that had one. Good luck finding one to swap with, I looked. There are divider plates that can be added to the sieves for working in hills. They will help keep everything from going to one side, but you'll still need to slow down some in the steeper parts to keep from throwing grain out the back. Shouldn't be any worse than any other brand non-sidehill combine.

I have seen 5 2166's sell at private auctions, three of them had less than 1500 engine hours, none had more than 2000, the highest was $73000, the lowest was $62,000. I missed 2 sales with machines that sold in the low 50's (one was 50k even), both had a little over 2000 engine hours. From all the searching I did, I would say that the machine you are looking at is over priced. Of course, I don't know what condition it's in, or what options it has or what work has been done to it.

Good luck with your search,

Mike
 
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