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Re: 2377 fuel consumption

hi, yeah that's why i never want to trade up to a newer machine .man, are they hard on fuel.and in this day and age with sky- rocket prices and low,low, low grain prices.i hear of guys putting extra fuel tanks on board.i think case has an optional extra fuel tank .don't know for sure. hope my 1660 can hang in there for a while yet.anyway that 2377 is really neat combine from case.maybe it's hard on fuel but look at work u get done.good luck.
 

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My 1997 2188 will burn about 110 gals in a 11 hour day. Thats pulling a 8 row head in 180-200 bupa corn at 5-6 mph. Its also not electric , and has the fuel turned up too. that's about 10 gal a hour. The new 7010 is supposed to burn 15 gal a hour at full hp with a 12 row head at about 4-4.5 mph.
 

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Quote:More fuel = more fire = cleaner burn.

-Lance


I'm sorry Lance, but that's not quite right - keep putting more fuel into the chamber without the right (read PLENTY!) amounts of air will only give you a smoking (plouting...) engine that does give you more power, but the fuel is not used very efficiently --> wasting $$$ on expensive fuel...

As you say: "The laws of physics don't change just because you want them to...."


- Peter
 

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Peter, I'm pretty sure that the new Tier-3 engines use more fuel than the previous models. In addition, they run hotter and put more load on the cooling system. I understand the concept of having a perfect air/fuel ratio to generate the most HP, but I guess that didn't burn clean enough. Somehow adding more fuel causes it to burn cleaner. I don't know what exactly they changed there though.

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My understanding is that they burn hotter to burn more polutants... Not sure how the fuel works but i know they either get less hp out of the same ammount of fuel or burn more fuel to get the same hp.
 

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Corect me if i am wrong.
engines are supposed to burn cleaner, but, they burn more fuel. do you think producing more fuel doesn't harm the environment. All the more tankers hauling more fuel,,,,blah blah ......chain reaction dont you think. From the tar sands northern alberta to the atmosphere.. more fuel, more polution.
 

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To get a cleaner burn the timing has been retarded somwhat which also causes higher operating temperatures. My customers are also reporting higher fuel usage than the previous models. Thank you EPA! Can hardly wait for Tier 4.
 

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Deere claims that their T III engines are more fuel efficient than their predacesors. I know my 9.0L motor is AT LEAST as good as the 8.1 L on last years machine. This however is not an apples to apples comparison as JD has made a completely new motor for the TIII emmisions. So it MAY be possible that this new motor would be even better on fuel with TII regs.
Who knows?
 

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My guess is that the newer machine has a higher rated horsepower than its older counterpart. More h.p.'s means it will burn more fuel and probably you are getting more capacity with that h.p. and getting more done with fewer gallons of fuel per acre. The new tier III engines should be more efficient and in turn be cleaner burning. The exhaust is being returned to the engine intake on most tier III, so it gets burned again to clean it up before it is sent into the air. The next level of emissions for over the road trucks, tier IV, the particulates going into the engine will be higher that what comes out, at least that's what I've been told by the Cat guys.
 
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