Re: 9860 04 vs 9870
The 9870 is so much better than the 9860 don't even waste your time on a 9860. We owned a 9860 one year and after that we almost bought a cat 585R until john deere gave us a 9870 a year before they were released and we are so happy with it. We did demo a Cat 585R and it was a very impressive machine.