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Re: Another RED NEW HOLLAND

I guess if you make a big enough order, and have enough money these companies will do what you want.
 

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I think the old conventional machines that New Holland had were originally red. I think the models were 875 or 985 I can't exactly remember. they were befroe the 1400 and 1500's.
 

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Wonder if CNH will follow Agco's trend even more and start eliminating brands and colors in favor of one.
 

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It is becoming more obvious that CaseIH is compelled to become the dominant brand of CNH.
 

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You lot don't half talk some nonsense. I really cannot believe that yellow is going to be phased out instead of red.

These red combines are a one off. Probably a large customer with a big order who wanted them in red. Or perhaps for a new market where new holland are not a player.

In Europe New Holland are one of the top 2 in terms of sales, way ahead of case. Furthermore, the case axial flows of today are more new holland than case, rather than the other way around. After reading this forum, the yellow pages seem to be getting more and more interest too!
 

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If it comes down to phasing one or the other out, which is does look as if Case is taking the edge on NH, I don't think NH would be phased out completely. I think the twin rotor design would stay but end up being red (Case IH) in the NA market. But I think they would remain NH overseas where they are a big seller and just phase the name out of the North American market.

It's kind of like Agco. The only reason the Massey nameplate still exists is because they're a big seller overseas like NH. Otherwise they probably would have gone with White and Allis. Because face it, NH just like Massey just really doesn't sell here in the states and Canada. They have there little niches here and there, but 90% of their sales are in Europe and other foreign countries.
 

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Case IH is certainly bigger in the states than NH but in global terms that is not the case. When the CNH merger occured it was NH that bought Case - not the other way round.

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Re: Another RED NEW HOLLAND

Jono and Matt,


Harsh is also right. Red was just a dominant color for most major combines and early NH's were no exception. They were the 980, 990, 975, 985 and 995 before NH went to the solid yellow Models 1400 and 1500. The 900's were nicely trimmed in yellow, including their unloaders. The only red on the 1500/1400 were just stripes and logo.
 

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Quote:Case IH is certainly bigger in the states than NH but in global terms that is not the case. When the CNH merger occured it was NH that bought Case - not the other way round.

Jono




Yes you are right, NH is a much larger brand world wide than Case. Its only in the States that NH has the small market share. Though you're wrong about NH buying Case. Fiat was the one who wrote that check, not NH.


And no, NH is not going to be dropped. Amazing how one batch of special paint code ordered combines makes the STUPID rumors start flying
I can't imagine the rumors if they'd been painted green. Black would probably blow a neuron or something.
 

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Caseguy,

Fiatagri was the company that owns new holland and as such bought CIH to form CNH. However for the point of this discussion, comparing red and yellow it was yellow that shelled out the cash - that was my point.

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Quote:True it was Fiat/NH that did buy CIH. So we should call it FCNH.

i can see this turning into

f***** new holand. bring it on haters

Matt
 

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This is NH CSX. Some time ago they were with yellow cab
(cab is build in France and they could not change the line and paint in red so fast) They doe what ewer it takes to get the new markets
 
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