Re: Color aside, which machine?
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Re: Color aside, which machine?
8010s around here including ours are performing brilliantly .simple ,no rotor belt cab rotor reverse.fully modulated drive protection, self levelling sieves, great capacity great sample and after 3 years now of eliminating bugs and having updates these combines have had very little downtime this season.i would give them 9 out of 10 now.they are e generation ahead of any thing else on the market. also the cab is so quiet and well appointed its a pleasure to harvest.
8010s around here including ours are performing brilliantly .simple ,no rotor belt cab rotor reverse.fully modulated drive protection, self levelling sieves, great capacity great sample and after 3 years now of eliminating bugs and having updates these combines have had very little downtime this season.i would give them 9 out of 10 now.they are e generation ahead of any thing else on the market. also the cab is so quiet and well appointed its a pleasure to harvest.
Re: Color aside, which machine?
Afixit, please take a look at my post under "Lexion 600." I honestly can't tell you whether or not this scenario is typical of the John Deere 9750, but from what I actually witnessed, at least THAT individual really was a corn-eating monster! I sure was impressed. As young as you are, in your lifetime, you will look back some 25-30 years from now and ponder just how slow those old John Deere 9760's [and 9750's] were. LOL! In many ways, I do the same when it comes to the John Deere 7700 and Massey-Ferguson 760. The latter held the record for being the world's largest combine for 8 years!
Afixit, please take a look at my post under "Lexion 600." I honestly can't tell you whether or not this scenario is typical of the John Deere 9750, but from what I actually witnessed, at least THAT individual really was a corn-eating monster! I sure was impressed. As young as you are, in your lifetime, you will look back some 25-30 years from now and ponder just how slow those old John Deere 9760's [and 9750's] were. LOL! In many ways, I do the same when it comes to the John Deere 7700 and Massey-Ferguson 760. The latter held the record for being the world's largest combine for 8 years!
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I would have to disagree with your deeredude on the sts as being a corn eating machine.. all they can handle with ease is 8 row corn head... the 8010 will walk all over the sts in corn with a 12 row .. I have an sts and the ppl I know with the 8010 will blow the doors of the sts hands down.. not enough sieve area and not big enough clean grain elevator.. which would u rather have a combine that can easily handle 4500 bu/hr (8010) or 3600 bu/hr sts.. just my two sense...
I would have to disagree with your deeredude on the sts as being a corn eating machine.. all they can handle with ease is 8 row corn head... the 8010 will walk all over the sts in corn with a 12 row .. I have an sts and the ppl I know with the 8010 will blow the doors of the sts hands down.. not enough sieve area and not big enough clean grain elevator.. which would u rather have a combine that can easily handle 4500 bu/hr (8010) or 3600 bu/hr sts.. just my two sense...
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great name had it long? As far as combines go I've only run Massey. The Massey rotors are very simple to set and work on, we've had very few problems with them. The 9000 series have engine issues that will be taken care of with the introduction of the class 8 machine. good luck.......Neil
great name had it long? As far as combines go I've only run Massey. The Massey rotors are very simple to set and work on, we've had very few problems with them. The 9000 series have engine issues that will be taken care of with the introduction of the class 8 machine. good luck.......Neil
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I personally think I would go with an R-75 due to price and simplicity. You couple that with an 893 corn head and 936D draper, you got yourself a combine. I really think worse for the wear, you couldn't go wrong.
I personally think I would go with an R-75 due to price and simplicity. You couple that with an 893 corn head and 936D draper, you got yourself a combine. I really think worse for the wear, you couldn't go wrong.
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I have had an excellent year with my CR 970 with no downtime issues and great capacity. I found it has excellent default settings in all grains I did. In comparing with neigbour's 9760 and 9750's I was doing more acres and bushels per hour in wheat and canola, and when hauling grain to the terminal, I am always getting comments from the grading people on how much cleaner my samples are than any other loads they are getting. I have a couple of my friends with 2005 9760's breaking crankshafts as well as hydraulic pump issues on new deeres. The concave adjusters on Deeres are breaking and variable speed feederhouse drives on deeres seem to be giving trouble as well as many needless small issues. I think the new Cat's Lexcion's 590, 580 do excellent work but I am not in favour of their sparse dealer network. Our neigbours Cat 9790 challenger combine which is essentially the same as the Massey was hauled away and had too much downtime for my liking. When comparing to 480 demo's I have had, I like the simplicity of the drives of the 8010 and the cr 970. The sieves and cleaning systems are superior in these machines. I lean to the twin rotor because I think it feeds the sieve system more evenly and when compared one on one to the 8010, I have heard the CR gets a cleaner sample. The CR is easy to clean out and for seed growers this is huge in down time. As far as cab comfort, I would vote Case and New Holland.
I have had an excellent year with my CR 970 with no downtime issues and great capacity. I found it has excellent default settings in all grains I did. In comparing with neigbour's 9760 and 9750's I was doing more acres and bushels per hour in wheat and canola, and when hauling grain to the terminal, I am always getting comments from the grading people on how much cleaner my samples are than any other loads they are getting. I have a couple of my friends with 2005 9760's breaking crankshafts as well as hydraulic pump issues on new deeres. The concave adjusters on Deeres are breaking and variable speed feederhouse drives on deeres seem to be giving trouble as well as many needless small issues. I think the new Cat's Lexcion's 590, 580 do excellent work but I am not in favour of their sparse dealer network. Our neigbours Cat 9790 challenger combine which is essentially the same as the Massey was hauled away and had too much downtime for my liking. When comparing to 480 demo's I have had, I like the simplicity of the drives of the 8010 and the cr 970. The sieves and cleaning systems are superior in these machines. I lean to the twin rotor because I think it feeds the sieve system more evenly and when compared one on one to the 8010, I have heard the CR gets a cleaner sample. The CR is easy to clean out and for seed growers this is huge in down time. As far as cab comfort, I would vote Case and New Holland.
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I don't think there's any advantage of the twin rotor over the case rotor.
And yeah Case does make the best cab's on any machine
Thats for sure
I don't think there's any advantage of the twin rotor over the case rotor.
And yeah Case does make the best cab's on any machine
Thats for sure
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Will disagree bigtime on that one, concerning the combine cabs. Take a walk through the Fargo CNH plant, all the combine, cotton picker, sprayer cabs are made there on a dedicated line. At one point cab production was contracted out, but it has now been taken back completely in house within the past 18-24 months.
Have experienced twin rotors such as found in the CR, as well as the single longitudinal rotor in the CIH. Capacity differences can go either way, some big time in favor of the twins, some in the single. I believe with the reference to Deere and the STS direction taken you are thinking of the bi-rotor.
Will disagree bigtime on that one, concerning the combine cabs. Take a walk through the Fargo CNH plant, all the combine, cotton picker, sprayer cabs are made there on a dedicated line. At one point cab production was contracted out, but it has now been taken back completely in house within the past 18-24 months.
Have experienced twin rotors such as found in the CR, as well as the single longitudinal rotor in the CIH. Capacity differences can go either way, some big time in favor of the twins, some in the single. I believe with the reference to Deere and the STS direction taken you are thinking of the bi-rotor.
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Nice to hear that someone who has experience with both rotor styles agree's with me (basically)
Sorry to the other guy but i just don't see how there is that much difference from 2 small rotors compared to a big one
Just my childish opinion
Nice to hear that someone who has experience with both rotor styles agree's with me (basically)
Sorry to the other guy but i just don't see how there is that much difference from 2 small rotors compared to a big one
Just my childish opinion
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you cannot beat the k i s s way.that is the drive of one rotor campared to two is far simpler.
look at the 8010 just a cvt (no belts) , that one can also reverse a slug all from inside the cab,no other combine can do that.we have tried both twin and single and the single is far smoother not trying to split the material out of the feeder house. the seperaton on the single with the 270 degree wrap on the 8010 gives just as much and more then th twin, cnh cabs are 10 out of 10. cheers
you cannot beat the k i s s way.that is the drive of one rotor campared to two is far simpler.
look at the 8010 just a cvt (no belts) , that one can also reverse a slug all from inside the cab,no other combine can do that.we have tried both twin and single and the single is far smoother not trying to split the material out of the feeder house. the seperaton on the single with the 270 degree wrap on the 8010 gives just as much and more then th twin, cnh cabs are 10 out of 10. cheers
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now be careful....someone might get on here and badmouth you
Afterall its a crime to speak the truth or speak your mind
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now be careful....someone might get on here and badmouth you
Afterall its a crime to speak the truth or speak your mind
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Quote:now be careful....someone might get on here and badmouth you
Afterall its a crime to speak the truth or speak your mind
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Don't be afraid to speak your mind about equipment, but personal attacks are another thing.
Quote:now be careful....someone might get on here and badmouth you
Afterall its a crime to speak the truth or speak your mind
Don't be afraid to speak your mind about equipment, but personal attacks are another thing.
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Yeah tell me about it
I know sometimes i say things to livin up the conversation and to be a smart (you know what)
But I hate whenever someone ask's a question about case and there gps per say
and i might sound like a case represenative when i talk but we have had great luck with it
so....then i get bashed
(Just an example)
Sorry for haveing such good luck with case stuff
we just always have
Yeah tell me about it
I know sometimes i say things to livin up the conversation and to be a smart (you know what)
But I hate whenever someone ask's a question about case and there gps per say
and i might sound like a case represenative when i talk but we have had great luck with it
so....then i get bashed
(Just an example)
Sorry for haveing such good luck with case stuff
we just always have
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Back to the original post question; after doing harvest support for and working with 8- 8010's for the past 2 years, they are definitely an excellent machine and worthy of consideration. This year they worked through the most adverse conditions (northern SK.) that I have seen in 25 years of harvesting, and performed extreemely well. When the oat straw is so tough and damp that it turns into rope and will not break, let alone snap, the moisture content is off the charts, and the yield is 130 bu+, 36' swath of heavy tangled long straw, the 8010's kept on rolling. It wasn't pretty, but the crop came off! (3500 - 5000 acres ave. per combine) I gained a lot of respect for the capabilities of these machines. The more I work with them, the more I see that these combines will soon rival the 2388's for being "bullet proof" (sorry 'bout the pun!). The CVT design is way ahead of anything else on the market.
Back to the original post question; after doing harvest support for and working with 8- 8010's for the past 2 years, they are definitely an excellent machine and worthy of consideration. This year they worked through the most adverse conditions (northern SK.) that I have seen in 25 years of harvesting, and performed extreemely well. When the oat straw is so tough and damp that it turns into rope and will not break, let alone snap, the moisture content is off the charts, and the yield is 130 bu+, 36' swath of heavy tangled long straw, the 8010's kept on rolling. It wasn't pretty, but the crop came off! (3500 - 5000 acres ave. per combine) I gained a lot of respect for the capabilities of these machines. The more I work with them, the more I see that these combines will soon rival the 2388's for being "bullet proof" (sorry 'bout the pun!). The CVT design is way ahead of anything else on the market.
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Canuck, I'm very glad to hear that. I have not yet met the AFX 8010 in person, and would like to. I've heard a lot of things about it, unfortunately a lot of bad comments from non-users I can only take with a grain of salt.
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I know it probably had its share of "bugs" to work out, but all new designs do. It's physically impossible even for big combine companies to test them out in all conditions.
Wow, 8 of them! I'll bet that's an awesome spectacle in any field or coming down the road!
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Good luck with them and I hope you can post some pics for all of us to see.
Canuck, I'm very glad to hear that. I have not yet met the AFX 8010 in person, and would like to. I've heard a lot of things about it, unfortunately a lot of bad comments from non-users I can only take with a grain of salt.
I know it probably had its share of "bugs" to work out, but all new designs do. It's physically impossible even for big combine companies to test them out in all conditions.
Wow, 8 of them! I'll bet that's an awesome spectacle in any field or coming down the road!
Good luck with them and I hope you can post some pics for all of us to see.
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