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Re: Sick of New Holland!!
Viking, having a major problem with one New Holland or any other make, does not make the whole line "inferior."
Instead of just belittling your combine, why not just post the particular issues on here, to see if those with experience and expertise on the matter, can help.
Viking, having a major problem with one New Holland or any other make, does not make the whole line "inferior."
Instead of just belittling your combine, why not just post the particular issues on here, to see if those with experience and expertise on the matter, can help.
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I get the hydro limit sensor when the oil gets too hot. Sometimes I have a sticking spool in the header height control valve that causes the oil to bypass and stroke the pump. It got better last year but still needs a little work
I get the hydro limit sensor when the oil gets too hot. Sometimes I have a sticking spool in the header height control valve that causes the oil to bypass and stroke the pump. It got better last year but still needs a little work
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No, but with a John Deere you inherit a whole new set of problems! All makes will have their little quirks. The CR/New Gen CNH machines have some highly sophisticated hydraulic systems on them, electronics as well for that matter. This sounds like an issue a dealer needs to resolve for you with help from the company; they're really the only ones who can tackle these software and advanced hydraulic issues. A super modern combine like this has gone the way of the automobile - there is less and less an average guy can do and feel comfortable doing himself with regard to maintenance/service. I don't need to tell you how good the CR is; it does sound like you need some good dealer service now to button up these issues.
No, but with a John Deere you inherit a whole new set of problems! All makes will have their little quirks. The CR/New Gen CNH machines have some highly sophisticated hydraulic systems on them, electronics as well for that matter. This sounds like an issue a dealer needs to resolve for you with help from the company; they're really the only ones who can tackle these software and advanced hydraulic issues. A super modern combine like this has gone the way of the automobile - there is less and less an average guy can do and feel comfortable doing himself with regard to maintenance/service. I don't need to tell you how good the CR is; it does sound like you need some good dealer service now to button up these issues.
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I am not saying that these combines are inferior I just don't understand why they had to go this far on the electronics. They would be one heck of a combine if they were like the old TR98. I was just wondering if anyone else had been having trouble with this stuff on their New Hollands.
We have called the dealer and they are going to come down tomorrow to see if the software is right on it. I read in the shop manual yesterday and it looks like we might be having a trouble with the HHC module. Hope this is not the case probably a pretty expensive fix.
I am not wanting to start a war on here just wanting some help. Sorry
I am not saying that these combines are inferior I just don't understand why they had to go this far on the electronics. They would be one heck of a combine if they were like the old TR98. I was just wondering if anyone else had been having trouble with this stuff on their New Hollands.
We have called the dealer and they are going to come down tomorrow to see if the software is right on it. I read in the shop manual yesterday and it looks like we might be having a trouble with the HHC module. Hope this is not the case probably a pretty expensive fix.
I am not wanting to start a war on here just wanting some help. Sorry
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I hardly believe you're the only one to have and go through a bit of shock experiencing these new "problems" and issues with CRs. The New Gen is a radical departure from the TRs that preceded it; NH went from having among the most primitive and basic machine to the other end of the spectrum - having the most advanced and sophisticated combine on the market. The CR makes the Lexion look like a basic, simple combine! I'm not saying what's bad and what's good, but it was a major change and perhaps many NH dealers just aren't that up to speed on it as they should be?
I hardly believe you're the only one to have and go through a bit of shock experiencing these new "problems" and issues with CRs. The New Gen is a radical departure from the TRs that preceded it; NH went from having among the most primitive and basic machine to the other end of the spectrum - having the most advanced and sophisticated combine on the market. The CR makes the Lexion look like a basic, simple combine! I'm not saying what's bad and what's good, but it was a major change and perhaps many NH dealers just aren't that up to speed on it as they should be?
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Yeah I think that is some of the problem. They are just kind of getting started on this like we are. We are the 3rd CR our dealer has out. I am like you I just think it is the way things are now days. Cars and trucks are going all to electronic and now ag equipment is. Its just hard when you have trouble with a little computer box to sit all day and try to figure out what is going on. They are one heck of a nice combine to run when everything is going well!!
Yeah I think that is some of the problem. They are just kind of getting started on this like we are. We are the 3rd CR our dealer has out. I am like you I just think it is the way things are now days. Cars and trucks are going all to electronic and now ag equipment is. Its just hard when you have trouble with a little computer box to sit all day and try to figure out what is going on. They are one heck of a nice combine to run when everything is going well!!
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Well we figured out what was going on with the header. They brought down a HHC Module and put on and it seemed to fix it. Our dealer went to the New Holland Assist and they found that some of the modules have been have some trouble because they didn't get soldered right from Bosch. It was an easy fix but would have been a lot simplier if they would have sent out a service bulletin so we never would have had this trouble in the field or at least know what was going on when it did happen.
Well we figured out what was going on with the header. They brought down a HHC Module and put on and it seemed to fix it. Our dealer went to the New Holland Assist and they found that some of the modules have been have some trouble because they didn't get soldered right from Bosch. It was an easy fix but would have been a lot simplier if they would have sent out a service bulletin so we never would have had this trouble in the field or at least know what was going on when it did happen.
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Thanks I was not making up problems but when I posted this thread was after a day of messing with the problems and needing to hit the fields. It was an easy fix however New Holland needs to help their dealers out with this stuff so we know about it before we hit the field. I really love the combine the capasity is unreal just some of the electronics need some tweaking. But I think that is what the world is coming to every make of tractor or anything is going to have that stuff.
Thanks I was not making up problems but when I posted this thread was after a day of messing with the problems and needing to hit the fields. It was an easy fix however New Holland needs to help their dealers out with this stuff so we know about it before we hit the field. I really love the combine the capasity is unreal just some of the electronics need some tweaking. But I think that is what the world is coming to every make of tractor or anything is going to have that stuff.
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we have done a factory campaign on the HHC modules, its incredible to think that a bit of solder can cause so much grief! i think that on the new 09 CR/CXs the HHC will be incorperated into one of the CCMs (combine control module) which should be more reliable. we have also found that the software updates are very good at ironing out problems, i think all this new technology is great and it needs to be feild tested to prove itself, ive never heard of a machine yet that has problems sitting in the shed!
we have done a factory campaign on the HHC modules, its incredible to think that a bit of solder can cause so much grief! i think that on the new 09 CR/CXs the HHC will be incorperated into one of the CCMs (combine control module) which should be more reliable. we have also found that the software updates are very good at ironing out problems, i think all this new technology is great and it needs to be feild tested to prove itself, ive never heard of a machine yet that has problems sitting in the shed!
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Field testing? What's that? I am almost convinced that the 8010 was run for 20 minutes in the Grand Island Factory building (it was probably cold or raining) and given the go ahead for production!
Field testing? What's that? I am almost convinced that the 8010 was run for 20 minutes in the Grand Island Factory building (it was probably cold or raining) and given the go ahead for production!
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Former 9070 owner. I had trouble every day this year. Started the season with 225 hours. Feeder chain drum bearing. feeder chain broke twice. metal from inside the combine wrapped around the return cross auger. New holland rep said not important. (About 4 feet long) Dealer missed the bulletin on the ground strap issue on the seat. Four days of computer shutting down. Boost pressure sensor bad. Boost pressure tube blew apart. No clamps on one end of the hose. After three days of down time traded for a 9870 Deere.
Former 9070 owner. I had trouble every day this year. Started the season with 225 hours. Feeder chain drum bearing. feeder chain broke twice. metal from inside the combine wrapped around the return cross auger. New holland rep said not important. (About 4 feet long) Dealer missed the bulletin on the ground strap issue on the seat. Four days of computer shutting down. Boost pressure sensor bad. Boost pressure tube blew apart. No clamps on one end of the hose. After three days of down time traded for a 9870 Deere.
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hows the 9870?
hows the 9870?
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No stops with the 9870. There are many nice features on the 9070 that I wish were on the JD. Ease of cleanup is one. Larger cab. The grain flow was exactly the same in the same field. About 1100 bu/ hr. according to yield maps of complete field. We had very tough conditions this year fog every morning and tough at sundown so the speed was not very great with either. Fuel consumption is higher on the JD 1.4 gal/acre vs about 1 gal/acre with NH. Cutting lodged 70 bu wheat. The new 935D header is a joke. In heavy crop it would start windrowing on both sides of the center canvas. The header height on the wheels 4 feet behind the cutter bar is not a good design. I will trade the header b4 next year.
No stops with the 9870. There are many nice features on the 9070 that I wish were on the JD. Ease of cleanup is one. Larger cab. The grain flow was exactly the same in the same field. About 1100 bu/ hr. according to yield maps of complete field. We had very tough conditions this year fog every morning and tough at sundown so the speed was not very great with either. Fuel consumption is higher on the JD 1.4 gal/acre vs about 1 gal/acre with NH. Cutting lodged 70 bu wheat. The new 935D header is a joke. In heavy crop it would start windrowing on both sides of the center canvas. The header height on the wheels 4 feet behind the cutter bar is not a good design. I will trade the header b4 next year.
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I had trouble with my FD doing that in bearded (Go) wheat last year.
We added some tins to the back panels and the problem disappeared.
But I don't know if it was the tins or changed crop conditions while being shutdown for 1/2 an hour.
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I believe Deere has fairly high lugs on the drapers on a relatively narrow feed draper, perhaps the high lugs are grabbing material as in stacks on the feed draper pulling it underneath?
Just a swag.
Don
I had trouble with my FD doing that in bearded (Go) wheat last year.
We added some tins to the back panels and the problem disappeared.
But I don't know if it was the tins or changed crop conditions while being shutdown for 1/2 an hour.
I believe Deere has fairly high lugs on the drapers on a relatively narrow feed draper, perhaps the high lugs are grabbing material as in stacks on the feed draper pulling it underneath?
Just a swag.
Don
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