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Re: tractor vs self propelled sprayer?

The agco or case/New holland with a cab suspension and front axle suspension and cvt. We have a NH t7040 with cab suspension it would be nice for spraying if a guy had to. I still would not give up my high clearance sprayer though.
 

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You can get the fanciest tractor with all the suspension you want but they still don't compare to a self propelled rig. People around here are starting to realize that now and self propelled sprayers are poping up all over when 6 years ago there weren't any.
 

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Its starting to seem like your comparing pull-type combines to self-propelled. other then they both do the same thing at the end of the day. really no comparisms.
 

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I agree 100%. You never saw a self propelled around here until 5 years ago including on our farm. We were spraying with two 90' pull-type two years ago and thought we were getting along well. Our local dealership had a left over '06 Case 4410 they gave us a deal on so we jumped on it. We do more acres with the 4410 than we could with the two pull-type. There is no comparison I wish we would have switched alot sooner. And there is no tractor that will run 20 mph in a field with you still in the seat. All I can say is watch for tile holes!
 

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I know the topair sprayers that ride on tracks seem to ride pretty well and are stable. I don't know anyone pulling them at 20mph though.
 

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Last year I pulled our 1,250 gallon pull type sprayer with 90' booms behind our Cat 55 wide gauge tractor and I really liked it. Post spraying corn I could spray at 12-13 mph and on pre-emerge stuff I could run up to 16 mph which is where I maxed out the tips. I think an MT765 is going to ride almost as good as a self propelled sprayer and in alot of conditions it will have a smoother ride. We were really wet last spring and with 18.4x38 radials on our sprayer behind the Cat I was spraying in mud where a self propelled sprayer couldn't have gone and in the worst places I was only leaving 3-4" deep ruts. With our field sizes my ground speed is very close to what the self propelled sprayers are running but we have a tractor that can be used year around and the pull type sprayer has almost zero maintance or repair costs.
 

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I spray with a Buhler 2180 FWA and a 90' Flexi-coil 67XL suspended boom. I max my tips out at 14.5 mph, so thats as fast as I can go.

If I can keep my speed around 12 mph average, I can blow off 130 acres an hour. So on a typical 12 hours of spraying (not including filling or transport time) I can do 1500 acres/day. In order to do this however takes preperation, coordination and coffee. And of course thundershowers, breakdowns, wind can take its toll.

I push a pull type sprayer (ours anyways) to the max. We farm 9000 acres and most guys around here that size have HC sprayers, but they don't seem to get anymore done then I do in a day.

And yes a HC sprayer would be nice but I have no requirement for 5 feet of clearance nor do I need one more engine to maintain. My next sprayer will be a 130' 1200 gallon suspended boom. It may not be the fanciest rig in the field but its low cost and does the job, and in the end that should be every farmers final goal, after all we are in this for the money. I am a happy "poor mans high clearance" owner.
 

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What kind of tips do you use and at what pressure?

What is your speed range with these (high to low).

Thanks for the info in advance.
 

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How did the cat go cornering? Did it screw up the crop a lot?

In wet conditions a 3pt linkage boom on a cat sounds good, just wondering about crop damage.
 

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Re: tractor vs self propelled sprayer?

Depends on the number of acres you are covering. SP would be the best but the cost may not pay for itself on the few acres.
 

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Here are some pictures of the tracks I left in corn spraying with our Cat last year. The first is typical of turning on the ends.



This picture shows some of the worse conditions we fought last year, a self propelled sprayer wouldn't have been able to run in these conditions without getting stuck.

 

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I have used self propelled sprayers, flown ag-aircraft for 30 years, and now use a pull-type sprayer on our farm. They all have their place. Our present sprayer has a 132 ft. boom and is on tracks. This year we are pulling it with Cat 765 and the tracks match. Speed is limited by only pump capacity and obstacles. Turns require a fine touch with the long and heavy booms. Auto steer is a must. I think the learning curve is higher for a pull type as opposed to a SP. Ag aircraft are still necessary and we still have one but the $4000 it cost to insure makes us call the local ag pilot who at one time was our competition when an aircraft is needed.
 

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On our farm we run a pull type 120 ft spray rig and a TG 210 New Holland tractor and this suits us just fine, Possibly if we had no other need for the TG we would think about a self propelled because there is no question that the sprayer is one of the most important peices of equipment on the farm, but given that we need the tractor for other things ie chaser bin at harvest, and fertilizer spreading. If we had a self propelled we would still need the tractor which would mean having extra equipment. I know that it is impossible to beat a SP for efficiancy in spraying alone but I can still cover 1000 acres a day easy enough so it is not a worry for me, although we have got SP's in in the past to crop top lupins due to their height. Anyway just my two bobs worth

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