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Recently appeared on the secondary screen an unexpected loss of communication with the ECU of an application. Also indicates that the function is from the Instrument Cluster and the ISOBUS is 202936.
Immediately the primary screen shut off and loss control of all functions!! Only the engine still running.
Any one can help ? Thanks!!
 

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Recently appeared on the secondary screen an unexpected loss of communication with the ECU of an application. Also indicates that the function is from the Instrument Cluster and the ISOBUS is 202936.
Immediately the primary screen shut off and loss control of all functions!! Only the engine still running.
Any one can help ? Thanks!!

The future of farming :bang:
 

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The future of farming :bang:
Exactly. We pull an air drill with a 9620RX, however I was looking at nicely rebuilt big bud the other day for exactly these reasons. I don't want to own the thing (the JD) off warranty.
 

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Exactly. We pull an air drill with a 9620RX, however I was looking at nicely rebuilt big bud the other day for exactly these reasons. I don't want to own the thing (the JD) off warranty.

I've got a New Holland T.9 670 and its already had numerous costly electrical problems. Considering getting rid of it and buying a new Kirovets, simple and not much electronics to fail. Wish they had a little more power though.
 

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Old 1153 Versy or a Big Bud. The only def you need to worry about is the ringing in your ears. A little cab refinements could alleviate that. A lever is easier to engineer than a 100 wires fed to a computer. All that electronic nightmare is a money grab. Keeps the service truck in your yard and your equipment at a standstill. Simple combines have left the marketplace. Used to change the odd belt and a bearing on a combine. Those were considered breakdowns in the day. Now without a laptop with the corporations software your screwed.
 

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I guess I'm the odd man out who likes the electronics on modern machines. The way some of you talk you act like you haven't been able to put a crop in or take it off because of computer errors which I highly doubt is the reality.

A couple of things though:
1. Why is a failed computer not an acceptable breakdown? Again, they don't fail very often and much to the anti-computer peoples dismay they actually prevent much larger breakdowns by closely monitoring systems. People get mad because the computer prevents them from "limping though" a failure but in the end might save their bacon on a much larger mechanical repair. The rage people have towards "throwing codes" is very peculiar to me. When our combine starting blinking at us because of a failed injector on the engine, I was quite glad it did before the failed part caused more damage. It makes no sense that replacing a bearing or belt is "no big deal" but fixing a computer is the apocalypse.

2. You anti computer guys are useless. This guy had a legitimate question and you didn't help at all, all you did was start the typical "A lever doesn't break down" crap. I've used tractors with levers and tractors with switches and the levers can stay where they belong, in machines 25+ years old with the dinosaurs who love them so much.

Unfortunately for the OP your best bet is to call the dealer to find out what's wrong. Electrical problems are a hassle to find, the evil computer from the evil corporation might be able to pinpoint the problem quickly though.
 

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I guess I'm the odd man out who likes the electronics on modern machines. The way some of you talk you act like you haven't been able to put a crop in or take it off because of computer errors which I highly doubt is the reality.

A couple of things though:
1. Why is a failed computer not an acceptable breakdown? Again, they don't fail very often and much to the anti-computer peoples dismay they actually prevent much larger breakdowns by closely monitoring systems. People get mad because the computer prevents them from "limping though" a failure but in the end might save their bacon on a much larger mechanical repair. The rage people have towards "throwing codes" is very peculiar to me. When our combine starting blinking at us because of a failed injector on the engine, I was quite glad it did before the failed part caused more damage. It makes no sense that replacing a bearing or belt is "no big deal" but fixing a computer is the apocalypse.

2. You anti computer guys are useless. This guy had a legitimate question and you didn't help at all, all you did was start the typical "A lever doesn't break down" crap. I've used tractors with levers and tractors with switches and the levers can stay where they belong, in machines 25+ years old with the dinosaurs who love them so much.

Unfortunately for the OP your best bet is to call the dealer to find out what's wrong. Electrical problems are a hassle to find, the evil computer from the evil corporation might be able to pinpoint the problem quickly though.

You are deliberately misrepresenting what we are saying. It would be fine if the "Evil Computer" was reporting REAL problems and preventing further damage but in 90% of the service calls ITS NOT!!!!!!!!!!! My latest failure cost 2 days of seeding and a $1500 bill. Low oil pressure supposedly but not of course, just a dicky sensor.
Every one of my machines has failures causing blinking lights and varying levels of unusability at the moment and I know with certainty that they are all sensor/wiring problems not anything actually wrong with the machine.
And dont accuse me of being anti computer. I was the first in this district to own one and taught the majority of the local population how to use them. Computers belong in the office, not in a hot, humid, vibrating environment. The one exception I would make to that is GPS gear as it can be easily swapped out with a spare WHEN it fails. NOTE I said when it fails not IF.
 

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Recently appeared on the secondary screen an unexpected loss of communication with the ECU of an application. Also indicates that the function is from the Instrument Cluster and the ISOBUS is 202936.
Immediately the primary screen shut off and loss control of all functions!! Only the engine still running.
Any one can help ? Thanks!!
I had this happen on mine this fall. All I did was shut off the combine and turned the battery switch off for a couple minutes. Knock on wood it hasn’t come back yet.
 

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You are deliberately misrepresenting what we are saying. It would be fine if the "Evil Computer" was reporting REAL problems and preventing further damage but in 90% of the service calls ITS NOT!!!!!!!!!!! My latest failure cost 2 days of seeding and a $1500 bill. Low oil pressure supposedly but not of course, just a dicky sensor.
Every one of my machines has failures causing blinking lights and varying levels of unusability at the moment and I know with certainty that they are all sensor/wiring problems not anything actually wrong with the machine.
And dont accuse me of being anti computer. I was the first in this district to own one and taught the majority of the local population how to use them. Computers belong in the office, not in a hot, humid, vibrating environment. The one exception I would make to that is GPS gear as it can be easily swapped out with a spare WHEN it fails. NOTE I said when it fails not IF.

Had a bad sensor on a transmission. Took the thing down for a week while they tracked it to an internal failure on the sensor. That week cost me dearly in the custom farming business.

Guys get emotional about their opinions. If you like tech, fine. If you don't fine. Neither has the "morally" superior opinion. Both have their pros and cons. Only insecure children get upset when folks don't agree with them.

For the OP I have a phone number of the best green tech in the area. If you want it PM me and I'll get it to you.
 

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My latest failure cost 2 days of seeding and a $1500 bill. Low oil pressure supposedly but not of course, just a dicky sensor.
If it took 2 days to diagnose that the pressure was good and the sensor was shot along with a bill that large, whoever was working on that machine is ripping you off, that's a dealer or mechanic problem. I had a brand new pickup give me low oil pressure warnings, it was also a sensor and not the actual motor. They tested the pressure and replaced the sensor in about 15 minutes.

On the same token if the oil pressure had been low and you kept running, what would the end result be? More than 2 days down and a lot more than $1500.

In any event I'm not going to change anyone's mind. Just next time someone asks for help with an electronic problem, maybe the best course of action is to reply with something helpful for the guy who was looking for help. Pointing out that the electronic problem that they are having is a "stupid waste of time and money and corporations stealing from you" doesn't get this guys combine going any faster.
 

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I hate all kinds of breakdowns, mechanical and electrical. I do hate the electrical breakdowns more because I don't understand it, which I think is the same reason most others don't either.
 

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If it took 2 days to diagnose that the pressure was good and the sensor was shot along with a bill that large, whoever was working on that machine is ripping you off, that's a dealer or mechanic problem................................

To even get a Dealer mechanic on site here is $750, before they even turn a spanner!

So yes it does p*ss me when stupid never ending electronic glitches that require a factory laptop to turn the little light off turn profit into loss.
 

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To even get a Dealer mechanic on site here is $750, before they even turn a spanner!

So yes it does p*ss me when stupid never ending electronic glitches that require a factory laptop to turn the little light off turn profit into loss.
Fair enough.

That's criminal, $750 for a service call is ridiculous.
 

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I say keep whining. They will make it so the monitor can do as much as a laptop if you know how. Then I see a yearly fee with remote hook up available. To avoid those $1000 service calls just to delete a code or make a can bus part work. All this stuff is very nice when it works. We can not afford the down time or the service costs. The companies have to know how serious those things are.
 
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