[PA24-250]

So last year we had an extremely trying year with out s77. Between feeder house issues, injectors going after 200 hrs but we made it through and started this year with a clean slate. 200 acres of rye no issues, 400 acres of wheat smooth sailing,400 yards of canola a freaking disaster. Plugged the feeder house and snapped the front feeder drive shaft off at the slip clutch. I am becoming a firm believer these machines are not ment to do canola. Like I asid wheat rye no problem, we also do soys corn and sunflowers all no issues but we keep banging our head against the wall when it comes to canola. Anyway end of rant have a nice night.

 

[victory]

No Gleaner experience myself. You sure there wasn't something else in the canola? I presume you were picking up swaths.

 

[silverrod]

Have you got the updated feeder drives ( 2 belt ) on your machine and it also has a 10% difference between 2 chains. My S67 loved canola, but then there was a Fellow with a S77 here having issues. So is it a front feeding issue? Dan Hurtt has spoke about this before.

 

[PA24-250]

We have the double belt drive. Never really noticed a really night and day differance.

 

[buffalohunter]

looks like your picture is the best gleaner in canola

 

[PA24-250]

That is an understatement.

 

[silverluv]

What head are you running on it?

 

[silverrod]

When I got my 67 the front chain slats were not sticking out past the lateral tilt frame and I had to add links. I also had top and bottom floors in the front feeder. I'm only trying to come up with differences between my machine and others. As I said it was great in canola and last year I had big 40' windrows
Are you using a different head in canola to your other crops?
If so maybe that's the problem

 

[PA24-250]

4200 swath master pu head. Picking up a 25 foot macdon swath. It is truely a canola only issue. We have some adjustments to make and try it again. Hope it goes berltter. I am sorry if it seems im bashing gleaner because i really like the combine unfortunately we have this issue. But things are looking better.

 

[small time operator]

When I got my 67 the front chain slats were not sticking out past the lateral tilt frame and I had to add links
Not quite sure what you mean hear sr can you eleaborate or send me a pm with pics

 

[nddan]

First the 4200 needs to be modified to bring straw beyond side of feeder slats just like we did with all the Gleaner built heads. Second as long as you have chains set to no more than 4.9" length you need to speed year chain to 500 rpm. This is done by hooking up corn variable and setting the speed. You can go to 600 per Gleaner guide. This will not sort out a bad swather job but you will be able to cruise very well.

 

[nddan]

Remember to slow corn varible back down for heads with sickles or air blowers. Reports are canola goes much better with just 10% increase let alone the recommended up to 50%.

 

[silverrod]

The front chain slats need to stick out past the front housing so they can grab the straw properly. Mine were set level the feeder house without the lateral tilt frame so with the tilt frame they were 4" to far back. Capise

 

[nddan]

False floor good and should have one in rear or at least anti bow up skid. Get the square corners out of front feed witch are still in there. Install the hinged floor between front and rear. Give us a third feeder speed for canola if stream lining doesn't do the whole trick. Every thing is in place now but a little more refining at factory level would solve this once and for all. But as allways this all start at the header and they need to be right no matter what is done to feeder

 

[pgagnon]

Ndan do you have a picture of the the modification that you are talking about on the 4200

 

[flatfoot]

Ndan do you have a picture of the the modification that you are talking about on the 4200

X2 - would be much appreciated, I have a better understand with pics!

 

[nddan]

Give me email address and i send you what i have

 

[bert61]

I'm looking forward in going into canola and compare combines, last fall my R62 went down real bad when I was in canola. Always had a problem with the front feeder house feeding issues in green canola stems. So when the R62 was out of commisioned I rented a older R72 , the front feeder chain is out a little further then the 62 and the whole floor of the front feeder house had been pulled out from previous owner. Didn't know how that was going to work but went at it anyways. Worked like a charm ! Put a hundred hours on it without any issues at all . Ended up buying the combine as a backup. So as you can read, I,m looking forward in comparing them this fall, if that 72 outshines the 62 in feeding the canola,well, you know what i'm going to do.

 

[CWRS]

Nddan & silverrod

Have you seen these same problems with the 8200 head.
Worked great in peas but won't feed in spring wheat. It seems like the feeder chain can't grab it. I will have to check the chain today.

 

[silverrod]

The feeder chains are the Gleaners 'Achilles Heal' so they have to be right. Dan has spoken many times on floor mods etc. I have no experience with an 8200.
The chain has to be sticking out past the feeder house.