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I’ve had one request for access to our land for snowmobiling. I told him yes he can, but shoot me a text when you plan on riding so I know it’s you out there. So here’s the tracks from yesterday. At least 20 machines and obviously not the guy with permission.
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I call them idiot machines for a reason.

Feel your pain, and have experienced it way too many times. Image having them do that all over a hay or stubble field with two feet of snow and the hay/straw bales are still out there, now you go and bust your way over every dam one of those frozen tracks to get your bales.

All of my owned land is perimeter fenced now, cattle was the reason for most of it, trespassers was the reason for the rest. The piece of mind it gives me is huge, especially at hunting season.
 

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It’s kinda funny some news sites say the law was passed in may but while reading other sites I believe the amendments were passed in may.

pretty sure rcyung and albertabuck need some sleds and join the pack.

all kidding aside it sucks for landowners when people disrespect another’s property, signs probably won’t help much but I’d try it.
 

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Who cares about snowmobiles in Sask? Nobody on a sled in Sask can hold a landowner liable for anything so have at it. This trespassing law has to be the dumbest idea yet to cut down on crime. Don’t the RCMP have to actually respond to crimes to catch anyone and if they do catch someone are courts turn them lose in 24hrs.
 

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No biggy. I’m just a little on edge after having the farm under attack 3 times in 14 months by career criminals. We caught 3 out of 5 and the mounties know who the others are from my pictures. Last one ran an RCMP over when things got serious.
As far as sledders and quaders , I’m sick of their disrespect. I’ve confronted enough of them. I don’t mind sledders crossing a field away from my dwelling, but why do they feel the need to come through my yard which is clearly fenced in front and shelterbelt in the other sides. Quads can stay right off. They go from mudhole to mudhole covering many miles in a day and the threat of clubroot is real. Still , a landowner should not need reasons to not want people on his land . It’s your land, you paid for it, you are taxed on it. Why should you provide recreational facilities for city people. I’ve installed steel corral gates at the driveways to deter the grab and go criminals. Pain in the ass for us but it’s the price we pay for living with a catch and release court system.
 

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I think Sask has done the right thing with the new "trespass law". Farmland is private property. Not that a new law is going to change much, like stop crime, or stop sledders and hunters from crossing your land. That is pretty much unenforceable anyway. Even if you or police did catch them. The big thing to me is the change in the view that the trespasser can't turn around and sue the farmer now for putting his fence there or leaving his cultivator over there.
 

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A reputation of having target ranges on your fields helps slow down trespassers. That and you like to do mag dumps often knowing no one is out on your private land ;)

Unfortunately you often have to turn a person or two in to get everyone's attention you are serious about trespassing. I rarely say no when asked unless conditions would keep me off the land. I have had to turn in a guy when his son went after I asked him not to because of muddy roads. Fellow land owner even. Asked only a warning be written. It seemed to help.
No clue how your laws are. Montana laws are fairly land owner friendly.
 

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Put this up along with some old snow machines with bullet holes in them. Might make someone think twice.
Haha. One line I like to use after I hear the excuses that they got turned around or lost. I tell them I know, I was watching you through the scope. Usually wakens them up.
As far as laws go, they are only as good as their enforcement which is really non existent.
 

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Buddy of mine had a lot of trouble with them taking out one particular section of fence. So one fall he redid that section with grader blades for posts. He said there was a hell of a pile of busted plastic there one morning but he didn't have any more trouble. I told him he was lucky he didn't get sued.
 

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Where we live everybody comes to ride. We have a trail system and get permission every yr to run our trail across peoples land. We are thankful for those people to allow travel with snowmobiles to get to our forested trails. Problem is many that come here don't stay on the trail and decide to snoop around regardless of signs stating they aren' t welcome. Like with everything in life there are those that ruin it for everyone else. Was heavily involved in the snowmobile club for yrs and it's getting worse IMO. People have that attitude they deserve to be able to go where they please. I know everyone in the community and it gets harder to get permission every yr. You feel stupid asking for permission after some of the things that happen. Got so bad one guy put cameras up right beside newly put up No Trespassing signs. Got pics of the people and went to the rcmp. It got resolved but the sled owners were a family that were mad that they had their picture on the web lol. I felt no pity as I am the guy who gets asked all the time to put up no trespassing signs on land our trail is a mile or more away from. No respect!!
 

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i like cross country sledding preferably in deep snow , so far never asked permission.
But do respect fencelines ,no tresspass sign end so on .
hunters are always welcome to hunt on our property, and often in spring kids are rutting up stuff with quads .
Do not like that but my wife says ohh just remember what you did yourselves ages ago.

And it’s true let’s live and let live
 

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I’ve had one request for access to our land for snowmobiling. I told him yes he can, but shoot me a text when you plan on riding so I know it’s you out there. So here’s the tracks from yesterday. At least 20 machines and obviously not the guy with permission.
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Boy that damage looks horrible. I sure hope you can get that cleaned up soon enough to get it seeded this spring
 

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Boy that damage looks horrible. I sure hope you can get that cleaned up soon enough to get it seeded this spring
Yeah, me too. I guess we’ll leave it to the owners and farmers to determine what constitutes damage On their land.
That picture is just to bring attention to a much larger issue. Sorry I didn’t take pictures of the fences I’ve repaired, the no trespassing signs that were destroyed, our fruit trees run down, garbage I’ve picked up. In the picture above, there is an elderly couple living in the poplar bluff about a 150 feet off the beaten path. Their family has owned the land since 1910 and we rent from them. They are sick of the noise at all hours of the night screaming around their yardsite. Nothing they can do about it. This land is used as a path from acreages to a snowmobile clubhouse. No one from the club has ever had the decency to ask permission. A lot of them drink all day at the shack then snowmobile home.
The Queen has a lot of land in this area that these guys can use, lots of trails in the network available. The notion that one person should purchase and retain an asset such as land for the pure enjoyment of others just sounds so socialist. And these guys that enter my yard fully masked and refuse to identify themselves, well try that in a bank!
 
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