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Looking for the best seed and fertilizer blockage monitoring for flex coil air seeders used new or just some ideas what’s best thanks
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The intelligent ag system is great
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Triticum Agricolam
Intelligent Ag, its worth every penny. I won't run a drill without it.
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I use Agtron seems okay. We only use one sensor per tower.
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We had agrton on our flexicoil, but we switched to intelligent ag.......
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Intelligent ag is awesome.....when it works,
Not very reliable in my opinion.
ECu's losing wifi, and going "deaf" on the odd run, but when it works it is great!
Also have a friend who had fertilizer dust and seed treatment dust build up on the sensors and make them go deaf.
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Next year said:
Intelligent ag is awesome.....when it works,
Not very reliable in my opinion.
ECu's losing wifi, and going "deaf" on the odd run, but when it works it is great!
Also have a friend who had fertilizer dust and seed treatment dust build up on the sensors and make them go deaf.
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Sensors must be cleaned regularly and if applying dusty stuff even more often, this is for all implements.
It's the nature of the beast.
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Trillium Farm said:
Sensors must be cleaned regularly and if applying dusty stuff even more often, this is for all implements.
It's the nature of the beast.
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Maybe cleaned 4 Agtron sensors in 6 years and almost zero issues. You couldn’t give me a system like the sound guys use. Even my dealers are mad at sound guys now
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Trillium Farm said:
Sensors must be cleaned regularly and if applying dusty stuff even more often, this is for all implements.
It's the nature of the beast.
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What is “regularly”. Was thinking about a system but have no interest in cleaning sensors every second day.
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Kettle said:
What is “regularly”. Was thinking about a system but have no interest in cleaning sensors every second day.
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I put on an airguard air dryer. Helped with sensor buildup. Still having other issues but they are nostly related to fan noise on a seedmaster drill. Definitely back to agtron next time.
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I've had IA since the second year it was available. I've never had to clean the sensor pad but I use NH3 so don't have huge amounts of fert going thru and it is with the seed anyway. When it was new it just worked. Over time the sensor pads must lose some sensitivity, so even tho they look ok, and they still send sound down the small rubber hose, they stop working properly. Changing the port on the ECU sometimes works. Usually just replacing the sensor is the solution. I've never had a wifi problem but I've got a tow behind tank. Antenna is in the cab. The old Z sensors had that bulb part directly below the sensor pad that will fill up with dust and form a hard chunk that will break free and block the hose. That sure pisses a guy off. Looks like they've eliminated that on the new ones.
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I am on my second IAS system. Sold my old system to a neighbor. New system came with current seeder. I have found that when I am second guessing the system. The seeder is having issues and it is letting me know. I did have one season I got very dusty urea that would up build in the whole seeder and on the sensors. I quit buying from that seller. Try to get direct shipped urea that is handled much less. No problems since. It was so bad it was plugging my seed boots. I put a airguard air dryer on the seeder and it did help with that stuff. Still have the dryer but don't use it anymore.

I would absolutely recommend IAS. My seeding confidence drops greatly when I run a seeder with out it.
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I think that we’re using the IAS system on our new Vaderstad drill but didn’t have any issues with the system as far as I know. First year I haven’t logged any hours on the drill, probably be running the harrows next year.
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I’ll just chime in here that for me, wifi between two farm machines is too undependable as as data transmission component. I thought yesterday we were getting a designated wire harness between the ECU and the tablet but it wasn’t the correct one for the application, which needs to be built or procured. Also a tablet is a fiddly fricken thing for a control device that only has to be running / or not running. I don’t need some kind of bogus Asian IQ test to make a piece of machinery GO. FFS.

Yesterday I had to fix a quarter section of misses because that POS won’t sit there and run. It’s not a toy. It may as well come on and off with the key width a single external power interrupter if you want it to stay dormant. Cannot connect is an unacceptable excuse.
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Have run IA since 2015 with really minimal issues. In my opinion it's the best way to keep your finger on the pulse with what's happening through the airsteam in the drill. I must've gotten lucky, haven't ever cleaned off a sensor or had any communication issues or had any sensors fail. The odd time i'll crack one from folding the drill but that's purely my fault for bad hose routing. Really appreciate that system come springtime, it's one of the few assets i have that doesn't require any maintenance to get it going for the season.
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This Legend row monitor is working not too shabby now thanks to some good help and a couple of visits from GVE, putting yet a different antenna on the ECU. They found one that seems to work in this particular arrangement. The reason it could not connect at all for a day or two was the result of a wire bundle that didn’t have enough slack in the wires and had a connector that wasn’t locked in position.

I’ve managed to turn it on and off and use it for the past two days so I guess that’s good enough ! It seems to work as advertised, which happens to be good.
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Each success leads to new discoveries. In this case the Legend row monitor has detected a flaw on the 2023 Bourgault 3720’s seed boots.

I noticed all of the blockage alarms I experienced had wheat stubble protruding into the seed tubes from the outside creating air flow restrictions. What is this all about? It needs fixing. It only happens on wheat stubble because the hollow straw can be flattened and fit through this tiny slot on the bolted joint for the seed tube.
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Tall straw can find its way into any where.
Put alittle silicon over that?
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It doesn’t really meet my standards to glue 84 critical leaks on a million dollar machine. I guess maybe Bourgault could fix it that way? I’ll sit on the tailgate !

I recommend windshield urethane. Preferably quick set so I don’t get bored. 😉
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kauppfarms
we just switched to Agtron because it couldn’t possibly be worse than IAS
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