[ronski]

Have a paired row opener with fert between 3/4" inch down and the fert gets blown out of the trench also blows the seed around. Would dutch seed brakes let the fert drop and not mess up the seed placement? It's less bad in stubble but worked ground might as well be single shoot. Thanks

 

[crw]

I was thinking the same thing on my double shoot openers. I have seed brakes on the seed runs now. The seed just falls into place and the fert blows all across the trench.

The dutch seed brakes are kind of a pain in the ***, but they do work. The hoses seem to pop out randomly, the canola dances inside the seed brakes forever, and leaks out of the vents, bottom hose joint and hits the ground, and dust blowing out at every possible place. But they do work.

 

[Don Boles]

I put one on a midrow bander, it works great but most of the rest would have been a logistical nightmare to route the added length and klutziness the brakes would add.
But your not talking BG midrow banders, it may work better for you.
They definitely reduce material scatter. Significantly.

 

[luuk]

I was thinking the same thing on my double shoot openers. I have seed brakes on the seed runs now. The seed just falls into place and the fert blows all across the trench.

The dutch seed brakes are kind of a pain in the ***, but they do work. The hoses seem to pop out randomly, the canola dances inside the seed brakes forever, and leaks out of the vents, bottom hose joint and hits the ground, and dust blowing out at every possible place. But they do work.

I have not had any of those problems you are describing with the seed brakes. Only thing I found that they did not work for is peas. They just spin around in the top part of the seed brake and don't go down.

 

[Don Boles]

I have not had any of those problems you are describing with the seed brakes. Only thing I found that they did not work for is peas. They just spin around in the top part of the seed brake and don't go down.

Sounds like you are referring to the original version, yes, you had to close the air escape on peas. The next, larger version brake is not affected that way.

 

[airguard]

crw, give me a call and I may be able to help improve your seed brakes performance. Don is correct that the larger ones have fixed a lot of the issues that the small ones had.

Also we have designed a new stainless Seed brake that we have just run this spring with a lot of success. I am going to offer a 10 year / 100,000 acre warranty on this new stainless model. It would be the best fit for fertilizer application.

Seed Brake for 1¼", 1½", 36mm, and 38mm OD Hoses and Large & Small Seeds - Stainless

 

[matt hagny]

Sounds like you are referring to the original version, yes, you had to close the air escape on peas. The next, larger version brake is not affected that way.

Are you talking about the plastic venturi style? -- seems like we've got some confusion on brand names . . . .

 

[matt hagny]

Are you talking about the plastic venturi style? -- seems like we've got some confusion on brand names . . . .

I guess the confusion is all in my mind ;-) since AirGuard is calling their venturi a "seed brake." I have associated that name with the perforated metal chamber style from Dutch (and later from Needham).

 

[Don Boles]

Are you talking about the plastic venturi style? -- seems like we've got some confusion on brand names . . . .

Partly.
Yes plastic but I don't think venture is a proper description, but I don't know what is.
Plastic spiral tube that exhausts excess air is closer.

 

[Jake676]

"cyclone" is the word you are looking for

 

[Don Boles]

"cyclone" is the word you are looking for

Ah, yes.

 

[cihfarmer]

I tried one on the seed run last year. We place 100lbs of S15 with the seed and only seeded about 1000 acres with the seed brake on and had already worn through it. I have a neighbor who has them on all his seed runs and loves them, but he does not place Fert with the seed.

 

[luuk]

I tried one on the seed run last year. We place 100lbs of S15 with the seed and only seeded about 1000 acres with the seed brake on and had already worn through it. I have a neighbor who has them on all his seed runs and loves them, but he does not place Fert with the seed.

I have seeded 6000 acres with the seed brakes on all the seed runs and they don't seem worn at all. I did hear if you run fert through them they wear a lot quicker.

 

[airguard]

Another thing that I will mention that we found is that our smaller 7330 Seed Brake will wear a lot faster than the larger one - 7340 in some cases. The larger model does not restrict the flow as much and that seems to help with wear quite a bit. Also if you happen to have some seeds coming out the top it may be due to the exhaust port being worn or the need for exhaust port screens. Double check to see if that is a problem. If you are having any issues at all, give me a call and I can help sort it out. Switching into larger ones or Stainless will help a lot with these issues.

Brian Cruson - Owner - Airguard - 1-604-787-5409