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May be sowing some SWW this year instead of hard red spring.

Ive never grown any before. Is it comparable to hard red in terms of seeding rate, spray applications, etc?
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We stopped growing hrs and went in to sww years ago. Used to yield 10bu acre more but tried some Brandon this year and yielded close to the same. Later growing stuff. ***** to take off dry even in my desert.
We used to grow it back when we had a good local market for it with the miller in Lethbridge. However they found it cheaper to import US SWS to mill rather than buy it locally, so that pretty much ended soft white wheat in this area. Always yielded well for us. It was before my time so I don't know what the herbicide and fungicide regime was like. I imagine it's nearly the same as HRS.
Guy fairly close to us has had good luck with it silage wise. claims it went 15 ton this year. Inlaws are going to try some for silage next year. Other guys I know that have grown it (for grain) the past have had good luck it as long as it rains, it's not as drought resistant as HR. Marketing is the problem as stated above. You pretty need a contract with someone. I'm not into that way things been going but that's just me.
It goes into the feed market unless you want
to sell to the ethanol plants. Very popular for silage and I was told the reason why but I forgot.
We used to grow it back when we had a good local market for it with the miller in Lethbridge. However they found it cheaper to import US SWS to mill rather than buy it locally, so that pretty much ended soft white wheat in this area. Always yielded well for us. It was before my time so I don't know what the herbicide and fungicide regime was like. I imagine it's nearly the same as HRS.
We sold some to p and h for like $13 bu last year since they were running low and importing was becoming too expensive
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We grow it for silage and grain. Yields like crazy, easy to cut since it does not lodge very easy The feedlots all around me grow it since its like a better yielding easier to deal with barley. We also combine it and sell to p and h near us since a miller in the area uses it for certain type of pasta and can get very good prices since very few people grow it and combine it in this area. The variety is sadash
Saddash is a good variety. It and Andrew were the two main ones grown around our area. Saddash is an earlier easier to manage variety but a little less yield potential. When the ethanol plant came online in lloydminster everyone took a stab at it and seen some success with it but it鈥檚 a one truck pony. Most have switched to cps or back to hrs. Yield potential is high with sws provided you keep disease away, have rain, and a good fall. Newer cps and hrs varieties have closed up the yield gap and mitigate limited markets, and longer growing season. Every area is different but our piece of heaven hrs yields are comparable with cps and not far behind sws. I do not know of anyone today growing it except for silage or greenfeed. If you want to grow it seed heavy cause it doesn鈥檛 stool well. Treat it and use fungicide because it is susceptible to everything. Be prepared for a 2 week longer season. Feed it well and have fun threshing when ready cause it鈥檚 nice to put through the combine vs hrs.
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Local pioneer. That was in early July. Sold a couple of loads. Had more but **** we were looking at a total crop loss so we saved a bunch for seed.

Who would have ever through 15 dollars for ****ty feed wheat. I鈥檓 going to photo copy the contract and pin it up somewhere
If you're just doing feed wheat and if the feed market doesn't particularly care what kind of wheat it is, is there any advantage to SWS vs say CPS wheat?

Anyone grow HWS?

Theoretically with the new wheat classes there should be more opportunity to grow other kinds of wheat including general-purpose (GP) wheat, but in practice I've not seen any market for them, and grain buyers don't really want it.
Yes and no. The local elevator buys Red feed wheat. White feed wheat is less. Used to do very well selling direct into ADL in Calgary. Then they started using Grain Corp to source there wheat. It went down hill from there. Plus ADL has a 14 moisture or above. Anything over is an auto reject.
That ended us selling to them
We鈥檙e rotating back into HRS. I鈥檓 sure I鈥檓 regret it at some point but more upside and selling options
We used to grow it back when we had a good local market for it with the miller in Lethbridge. However they found it cheaper to import US SWS to mill rather than buy it locally, so that pretty much ended soft white wheat
Saddash is a good variety. It and Andrew were the two main ones grown around our area. Saddash is an earlier easier to manage variety but a little less yield potential. When the ethanol plant came online in lloydminster everyone took a stab at it and seen some success with it but it鈥檚 a one truck pony. Most have switched to cps or back to hrs. Yield potential is high with sws provided you keep disease away, have rain, and a good fall. Newer cps and hrs varieties have closed up the yield gap and mitigate limited markets, and longer growing season. Every area is different but our piece of heaven hrs yields are comparable with cps and not far behind sws. I do not know of anyone today growing it except for silage or greenfeed. If you want to grow it seed heavy cause it doesn鈥檛 stool well. Treat it and use fungicide because it is susceptible to everything. Be prepared for a 2 week longer season. Feed it well and have fun threshing when ready cause it鈥檚 nice to put through the combine vs hrs.
We have no problem with rain since were all irrigated. In 2021 with the drought across the south we harvested the soft wheat that yield 100 bu/ac on 110 acre piece. Still was heat stressed though since we have to run the pivot between that and alfalfa field We might be seeding it next year on the same piece where some of our canola was.
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Local pioneer. That was in early July. Sold a couple of loads. Had more but **** we were looking at a total crop loss so we saved a bunch for seed.

Who would have ever through 15 dollars for ****ty feed wheat. I鈥檓 going to photo copy the contract and pin it up somewhere
Oh i know it was wild we made some money of that crop. sludge, and sulfur and boron thats it for fertilizer
We have no problem with rain since were all irrigated. In 2021 with the drought across the south we harvested the soft wheat that yield 100 bu/ac on 110 acre piece. Still was heat stressed though since we have to run the pivot between that and alfalfa field We might be seeding it next year on the same piece where some of our canola was.
Think sww and irrigation are suited for one another. It doesn鈥檛 lodge easily and yield potential is there.
If you're just doing feed wheat and if the feed market doesn't particularly care what kind of wheat it is, is there any advantage to SWS vs say CPS wheat?

Anyone grow HWS?

Theoretically with the new wheat classes there should be more opportunity to grow other kinds of wheat including general-purpose (GP) wheat, but in practice I've not seen any market for them, and grain buyers don't really want it.
Think sww and irrigation are suited for one another. It doesn鈥檛 lodge easily and yield potential is there.
you bet. There is a feedlot that farms 60000 acres. Serfas farms have heard they only grow hrs and winter wheat and barley on dryland since canola inputs are too high. They grow sww and corn mostly on irragation also some fall rye and double crop to oats
i grew it during and shortly after the type of it approx 10 yrs ago i liked the grain itself but came to the point where it was like feed barley selling it as feed to southern Alberta for close to the same price as feed barley to move it and yes it was even later season than durum, been tempting to try some again but will see what happens
I grow paramount I love it I like growing sww because for Me it鈥檚 all picked up on farm it goes to feedlots I鈥檝e sold it into the malt plant in town and if I want to haul I can take it to the ethanol plant in another town. I don鈥檛 miss the days of hauling my hrsw an start hauling then being to,d your falling number is no good or it was graded a 2 now it鈥檚 a 3 or one time I got told there train was lost in the mountains ( who comes up with this stuff lol) sww is higher yielding however if it gets hot and dry that really affects yield as stated above. This year I鈥檓 going to try and seed it last week of April first part of may. A seed grower told me the sooner it gets seeded the better. It is a longer growing season for sww so be ready for that I should also mention my farm is all non irrigated tto.
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I grow paramount I love it I like growing sww because for Me it鈥檚 all picked up on farm it goes to feedlots I鈥檝e sold it into the malt plant in town and if I want to haul I can take it to the ethanol plant in another town. I don鈥檛 miss the days of hauling my hrsw an start hauling then being to,d your falling number is no good or it was graded a 2 now it鈥檚 a 3 or one time I got told there train was lost in the mountains ( who comes up with this stuff lol) sww is higher yielding however if it gets hot and dry that really affects yield as stated above. This year I鈥檓 going to try and seed it last week of April first part of may. A seed grower told me the sooner it gets seeded the better. It is a longer growing season for sww so be ready for that I should also mention my farm is all non irrigated tto.
I tried Paramount and was not impressed. Went back to Sadash
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We switched for about 6 years to all Sadash, it can yield as good or better than a good feed barley can as long as its never lacking moisture. The last couple years with more average rainfall in Southern alberta we have had to go back to HRW as the SW falls on its face. Straw management can be a problem but if there are some cattle guys wanting straw on those tough damp harvest days, it's well worth getting it off the field. After a good frost it chops just fine. Sold it into the elevators when they brought in cps, sold it to the flour mill, lots went to Alberta distillers or as feed to feedlots. Will grow it again once we get back into wetter years.
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May be sowing some SWW this year instead of hard red spring.

Ive never grown any before. Is it comparable to hard red in terms of seeding rate, spray applications, etc?
When switching to soft white wheat (SWW) from hard red spring, it's essential to adjust seeding rates according to specific SWW varieties. Spray applications may vary based on the target pests and diseases.
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