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Anyone tried growing spring rye? Would be curious to hear some stories. I'm struggling with penciling out numbers for HRSW to make them pay, thinking of trying something new.
Spring Rye / Fall Rye discussion
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I don't even have any idea where you would get any. I don't think rye is going to pencil out much better than HRSW if you have to grow the spring stuff. From what I have heard you don't get the yield benefit like with fall rye.
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From my limited knowledge of spring rye, I agree with Andy. Low yielding and long season. Of course, maybe part of this was how guys used to treat spring rye. Maybe if it were treated with more care than it's fall cousin, it would be higher performing?
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Ya they can do 6.00 into Saskatoon, might be 6.50. I can get seed from a seed grower in melfort. Says yields are similar to hard red, bit longer season though. I dunno...thinking of doing some to try. Although I have some perfect land this year that will be peas that could go into fall rye. Sounds like a gamble. I am growing hrsw, but looking for options.
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Nice mustang, I am looking at growing cps and pushing it for yield this year for the hog barns. They are quite competitive with milling hrs prices often, and there are not quality hoops to jump through like with milling wheat. I end up selling my hard red there anyway, so I dunno why I grow hrs... I would do soft white, but they dock you on price, and we do not have the two weeks of extra season to mature it.
6 dollar rye is attractive, if it were fall rye, which can really yield and hardly needs the care of crazy wheat. No midge, early harvest, hardly needs weed spray etc..
I am always looking to try new stuff too in terms of crops. Give it a whirl, who knows until you try a quarter?!?!
6 dollar rye is attractive, if it were fall rye, which can really yield and hardly needs the care of crazy wheat. No midge, early harvest, hardly needs weed spray etc..
I am always looking to try new stuff too in terms of crops. Give it a whirl, who knows until you try a quarter?!?!
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Tried it once about four years ago, never again! Two weeks longer is the least of your worries, doesn't yield anywhere near fall rye. Commonly grow 70-80 bus. of fall rye in my area, spring rye yielded 40. Besides the yield problem, it didn't mature in late July like fall rye, which wouldn't be a big problem except we have been plagued with many August rains lately and rye does not fair well in wet weather, 40 bushel of $4.00 feed rye doesn't pay many bills. Just be prepared for the worst. I myself will not be growing it again.
So why would you grow anything but Fall Rye?
If somebody can grow 70-80b/a fall rye not sure why they would consider growing any other cereal. We have insured Fall rye yield history of 78b/acre and have not grown a different cereal for what will be 3 years. The rye mkt for people who have been paying attn has only been getting stronger(Ab is much higher than $6) and inputs are much less than for any other cereal that would yield this many lbs/acre. It also is easier to get rid of substandard quality of rye in this kind of mkt. Obviously we in different country as we are lucky to harvest our stuff by end of august/fh sept vs end of July and had plenty of it out in snow this year. This was not fancy product and still got rid of it at quite a bit higher price than year before.
If somebody can grow 70-80b/a fall rye not sure why they would consider growing any other cereal. We have insured Fall rye yield history of 78b/acre and have not grown a different cereal for what will be 3 years. The rye mkt for people who have been paying attn has only been getting stronger(Ab is much higher than $6) and inputs are much less than for any other cereal that would yield this many lbs/acre. It also is easier to get rid of substandard quality of rye in this kind of mkt. Obviously we in different country as we are lucky to harvest our stuff by end of august/fh sept vs end of July and had plenty of it out in snow this year. This was not fancy product and still got rid of it at quite a bit higher price than year before.
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Ok thanks for the input. Fall rye it is. What variety are people going with these days? Last time we grew it was 8' high lol. I'd like to try and avoid that. I can get Hazlet. Anyone try the hybrid one (Brasetto)?
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I have had hazlet for 2 years. It is shorter than most rye and has better shatter tolerance. Can actually run the stripper header over it. A little loss, but no worse that watching the shower of kernels when picking up a swath. This year I will take it at 16% and blow it down. More than keep enough from going on the ground to pay for the power to dry it.
I do have some of the other hybrid (Guttino) from Seednet in a 30 ac plot this year. We will see how it turns out. High seed cost ($40-45/ac) but if it yields the 25 to 30% more plus way better falling numbers, and is shorter, I think it will be worth it.
I do have some of the other hybrid (Guttino) from Seednet in a 30 ac plot this year. We will see how it turns out. High seed cost ($40-45/ac) but if it yields the 25 to 30% more plus way better falling numbers, and is shorter, I think it will be worth it.
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My rye was Hazlet. A semi dwarf. But it STILL grew 7 feet tall. Never lodged though. Lots of material for the soil...
Always felt rye was a lot like herpes. Once you have it you cant get rid of it. Tough to find a crop that will follow rye well in a continuous cropping situation and tough to get rid of it in that crop. Make sure you have plans of what you are going to follow it with.
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Not sure that is an issue these days. Last time we did it seeded liberty canola after a good burn off, incrop liberty and centurion. then did spring wheat with a group 2 wildoat, never saw a volunteer again.
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Same here...
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The shortest I had was shoulder height. One of us have the variety wrong? Or just growing conditions???
Seed grower told me it was hazlet. I'm guessing growing conditions, although it's hard to believe it would have THAT much difference.
We've got Hazlet in again along with some Brassetto (sp?) hybrid to try out.
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Yeah I got my seed Hazlet as certified from a Canora seed grower. Funny it would be that different. My buddy who also grew it, had the same height issues as well. Regardless, it is good you have some in! Be interesting to see how they perform this year.
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What rates are you seeding at? Are you treating it as well? What date range do you target to plant?
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