Currently have a 9610 and am pleased with it. Will be buying another combine for this summers wheat harvest and would like a rotary. The problem is I cant afford a 9660 which would be my choice of Deere's. I am considering a C-IH 2388. Will I regret getting away from Deere? Will cut wheat only with average yields around 40 bu/acre.
Stay Green or go Red?
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exactly why would you make that statment about 8010´s?
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i have some family that run 9610's and they like them but they are die hard green.. The always seem to have alot more issues and problems than we ever do with our 2388's.
I can gurantee you will be happy.
I can gurantee you will be happy.
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To answer your question better in 40 bushel wheat with a 30-36foot header I'd say you will be runnin 5.5-7mph all day long. I'd go for an afx or a st rotor above anything else. 2388 is neck and neck with 9660-9760 and they are a lot more affordable. Probably the most common combine among custom harvesters. the machine itself isn't ridiculously large but it has large capacity make sure it has bin ext's. And get the monitor too. If it's programmed right it will be within 3/4 of a point on moisture. If not closer. A 9610 and a 2388 are too way different machines. It is a lot bigger job to change concaves and grates on the green one. The 88 has a lot bigger cleaning system. And the grain quality is hard to compare with. I could go on and on pm me for more.
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There are bugs with every machine out there. I've seen a brand new 9660 start blowing up hydraulic components and by the time it got fixed it was damaged goods for the rest of its existence. Those horror stories aren't brand specific however CNH machines are hard to beat when they are performing properly.
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I would recommend the specialty rotor with gordon rotor bars on the front, kile mfg rotor kit for the afx style, and cover plates on the front half of concaves if needed. I am looking forward to trying the gordon wheat sieves, as I was happy with the soybean sieves from him. Good luck. These are the add-ons I have and am very happy, but even a factory 2388 will do a good job.
Farmer Tony I can make that statement from personal experience and documented breakdowns on 2 8010's a 2003 and 2005 model. But Iam sure that CNH has all the bugs worked out of the new ones thats what they told me to get me to trade to the 2005 instead of giving me our money back. but it was worse if anything. I guess it did quit catching on fire everyday. The spreader is the same junk. electronics are the same, control pressure failure?? you can go on and on there was always something.
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Just went from 9510 to 2388 with draper should be on Americas Funniest home videos some time this fall.??????
Im lost.... so the 9510 is alot better than a 2388??
Im lost.... so the 9510 is alot better than a 2388??
We could all argue all day long about how much better green is than red or the other way around. I prefer deeres over the 2388's based on the length of the feeder house. 2388's are very dependable and not that hard to work on, but if your used to a deere that short feederhouse will cause a few fatigued days for you until a person get used to it. just my 2 cents
9010 I see your from Grand Island I went on the tour when my 1'st 8010 came off the line. I also had the prototype run when they were developing 8010. Grand Island is why I thought you might build them. We had an engineer here from GI when it was on fire it happened at least once a day. they did redesign airflow and the 05 never did it. but his question was about 2388. They are a great machine and most dealerships can fix them. we had 3 of them. They don't have as much capacity as 9660 in dry corn but we never ran against 9660 in wheat so i would not know. 2388's are cheaper than deere also. proabably a good choice.
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A 2388 will fit your operation extremely well I think. We are extremely pleased with the way ours has performed.
Cutting 110bpa winter wheat at 3.5mph. Even producing great straw quality as you can see by that solid bale.
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Not to mention a clean sample in the tank.
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Cutting 110bpa winter wheat at 3.5mph. Even producing great straw quality as you can see by that solid bale.
Not to mention a clean sample in the tank.
Warren
Why I am changing from green to red
First is handling green stem beans and tough wheat straw. We double crop about all our beans so we are always trying to cut wheat about 3 days before it is ready so bunching is a real problem same with green stem beans so we are changing to draper to try to get a better feed.
I also wanted to try a Red machine I liked what I saw when I rode in one.
And last we have the worlds worst Green dealer in this area.
I don't think Green equipment is junk they make good stuff I just thought they were second place in what I needed.
First is handling green stem beans and tough wheat straw. We double crop about all our beans so we are always trying to cut wheat about 3 days before it is ready so bunching is a real problem same with green stem beans so we are changing to draper to try to get a better feed.
I also wanted to try a Red machine I liked what I saw when I rode in one.
And last we have the worlds worst Green dealer in this area.
I don't think Green equipment is junk they make good stuff I just thought they were second place in what I needed.
jdm going to an sts would also given you a huge improvement in your green stem beans. Seems like everyon new the STS would be an improvement in corn over the conventional, but for me there was a bigger improvement in the handleing the green stem beans that we have all come to love. IMO the sts is maybe better than the AFX rotor for beans but the small tube i think will tilt it back to red. No matter what colot the draper will make it better.
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