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how do you deal with it? I often have a problem sleeping ill wake at all hours of the morning and begin the day farming in my head. last good sleep was friday put in 25 straight hrs and rained out. bed at 4:30 am and slept till 10:00. the exhaustion helped. work,famliy, decisions all suffer from insomnia and those that sleep well dont understand
 

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When you figure it out, please let me know. Seriously, I feel your pain. Being exhausted does help you put in a full night, it's about the only way I know how.

Alcohol does NOT help. Weed might:D but I'm not going there, that's been too long ago, and I don't want to smoke with the way my lungs already are!:D

I've taken unisom, feel twice as tired the following morning. I was perscribed Ambien a few years ago for a few weeks. That stuff will KNOCK YOU OUT. One time the wife and I had a nice little "session", and the following morning I couldn not remember the end of it, I had to ask her if we finished out ok or if she had to roll me off:eek:. Anyway, after about 6 days of Ambien, I'd fall right to sleep but still wake up at 2:30, then be 3 times as tired the next day.

One thing that did help me, and I need to get some dimes to rub together to do it again, is Vitamin D and breathing exercises in a tub. Massive doses of Vitamin D, like 5 to 8 times the "USRDA". The right practitioner can help you here, for me it was a chiropractor, then you get a tub and breathe deeply. When you breathe in, you relax your abs / stomach and breathe all the way down in there. Most people incorrectly "breathe deeply" by lifting their diaphragm and shoulders. You know you've got it right when you feel like you start to float in the water, because the air is down that deep. That's why the tub, and the warm water is relaxing anyway. May sound weird, but I've had sleep studies, drugs, etc., and it was the only thing that made progress for me.

Good luck, and be careful.
 

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i know the breathing thing helps sleep best with arms above head???? dont get to "floating feeling " near enough cant sit through news at end of day without falling asleep but stare at dark ceiling at 3:00 tried the sleep aids even half pills fall asleep standing but dont remain sleeping long enough. and have the morning after "fuzzy head"
 

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Yeah, fall asleep in a tub and drown isn't the plan!

The vitamin D theory goes something like you're supposed to be out in the sun and work, then go to sleep in the dark. After years of working through the wee hours of the night and morning, and living N of the 45 (or on it like I do), and you're in a cab, or whatever, you don't get the vitamin D from the sun and it's compounded by how much you've screwed your cycle up with all the work, stress, etc.

Ain't life grand? Growing up sucks, growing old is worse, but it still beats the alternative.
 

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Very serious problem but it is fixable. I suffered from it 20 years until i understood it. Running business, raising kids, farming, construction. It was all fun, but it took a toll. This is just a suggestion that worked for me. Start a routine with what you can control. We all farm and put in long hours at certain times. Eat nothing past 7 pm, nothing, just water. No inet or texting past 8pm. Your mind controls the body, and you have to train it for what you want. I'm much happier now that i accepted these rules. Imo, it can be done, accept the fact that not every night is going to be perfect, but if the body knows a routine, it does help out very much with sleep issue. Cant hurt to give it a try.
 

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I too feel for what you are going through. I have done the 3 and 4 day straight thing and it gets pretty depressing at times. At the height of it I managed to stay awake 10 days, NOT FUN! One thing to be an insomniac during seeding and harvest, totally another to be that way in the dead of winter.

Had several chats with doctors, and with my history of reaction to medications, I pretty much told them that I was not willing to try prescription drug route as some of the side effects I have are less than desirable to put it mildly.

So far the best result I have found for the winter insomnia is exercise. Not the running on a treadmill type but just plain shear weight lifting. For true!! Lift until failure for me. Seems that vigorous exercise and strength training, for me, gets all the hormones back in line and then sleep comes way easier. It was a great relief to go from 3 and 4 day stretches of tired, dragging your butt around unproductive, to feeling rested and ready to go.

Summer time puts a halt to much of the weight training, but there is other tasks that can be put in place to give you that extra boost of calorie burning necessary to keep things in line. I always dreaded shoveling grain, now if I have time, I prefer it over a grain vac. I tend to take on the dreaded physical labour as a way of getting myself moving and getting my blood pressure up in a good way.

The side benefit for me is that I also eat better and I have managed to drop my weight from 270 lbs. to 225. Joints don't hurt as much and I am actually more relaxed than ever. I still get short bouts of insomnia but not like I use to. I have also got better at recognising the signs that tell me I have to do more physical labour and get the body to exhaustion instead of the mind.

There is something out there for everyone that will help. Mine took me over 10 years to find, and I am quite enjoying it. I hope you find something that will help with yours TC. I know how bad it can get.
 

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hmm it appears its an issue with farmers I am sorta an insomniac I sleep only maybe 6 hrs anyways but sometimes I cant get to sleep till 4 am girlfriends up at 6 im up at 7 so really shorts me on sleep I drink lots of coffee in the winter I drive truck so its easy I just drive till I get tired sometimes all night its exactly what you guys say though your mind doenst stop I guess cuz im always thinking about the farm running numbers in my head to see if I am going to break even etc etc planning on what to do the next day who I gotta call what I gotta do in town etc I wouldn't say my insominia is severe though its just annoying sometimes
 

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Years back my dad started taking Melatonin which he would purchase when in the U.S. Now I believe it is available in Canadian health food stores . Dad claimed it helped him get a good nights sleep . Google melatonin it is remarkable how a lack of certain natural substances affect the human body and I hope that you may find it to help with your sleep problems . Good luck .
 

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Ah, Valerian Root! Labrador Pills I call it (smells like dog sh!t). Relaxes a guy a bit, but never helped me actually sleep.

Melatonin is one of the chemicals naturally in your body controlling your sleep cycle, so that makes sense.
 

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i use melatonin knocks me out, no fuzzy head but doesnt add much to the tail end of my rest
thank you guys for your replies i had searched insomnia on here and no hits but i knew i was not alone in my struggle keep this thread alive it is a help to me and the other members
 

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how do you deal with it? I often have a problem sleeping ill wake at all hours of the morning and begin the day farming in my head. last good sleep was friday put in 25 straight hrs and rained out. bed at 4:30 am and slept till 10:00. the exhaustion helped. work,famliy, decisions all suffer from insomnia and those that sleep well dont understand
There is nothing better for insomnia than a good sleep.
 

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I have severe insomnia, very bad, i go days before i get to sleep, my hours just creep every night until i am falling asleep at noon and wake up like 9 pm. i think what some one said about stay away from the computer after a certain time is a good start, Yep here i am 3:45 AM still awake. just can't turn the mind off. I just have a good stiff drink to help and try to crash. doesn't help that i do mechanical design in the off season, so i am sitting in front of the computer all winter. Need an off switch on a timer, LOL.
 

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to explain it to those that dont understand it doesnt need to be anxious thoughts,worries or anything in piticular. lie there with a rolladex of thoughts flipping in your mind. tyenol pm has a commercial, wife lying beside her snoring husband , talking to herself asking stuipd questions " why do they call it chilli when it is hot..." commercial is funny but whoever wrote it has suffered with it. most would say turn over and go to sleep.
 

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I thinks this is normal for a lot of us. My grandfather is like this and so am I. Been this way as long as I can remember. It sucks and I'm told it will shorten my life. But then Grandpa is 86 so what do they know!
 

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Been there doing that. Was dozing off driving in afternoon and having bad headaches. Did sleep study and got breathing machine been fighting with it for 6 weeks finally getting used to it. Dr. gave me 3 RX sleeping pills 1 worked a little cost 9.00 pill insurance raised **** others side effects worse than any benfit. Last few days doing 2 X doses 5HTP and St. John Wort seems to be helping. Trying to lose weight suppose to help. Hang in there.
 

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Mind control. Take a meditation class. I took TM years ago and learned a lot about my mind keeping me up at night. There is a good little book by (I think) a guy named HARP (last name) with a forward by the guys who started BEN and JERRYS ice cream. You learn to stop thinking when you meditate. I know it sounds hokey and it's a hard learn but it will absolutely work if you put the effort in. Its got a lot of very positive side effects as well.
 

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Wow, i am shocked that so many others are in the same boat, Seems it is all in the mind, i must come up with a mental exercise to shut the brain down. The girlfriend says she has an idea how to get me to sleep but that takes to long.
 
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