T670i

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greentech

Discussion Starter · Jun 27, 2008

My dad (who still works for Deere) just came back from a meeting about the very European T670i. They will be offering them in North America starting next year, but there are 14 of them scattered around for this year. I guess you could call it a superconventional. Specs on the website say 400hp. For our tough straw conditions here in Manitoba this might be the next big thing. Sucks that it doesn't have HUR though.

http://www.deere.com/en_GB/products/agriculture/combines/t-series/t_series.html

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larry

· #2 · Jun 27, 2008

This combine is nothing more than a hyped up 9610. It has the same size threshing cylinder, impeller and concave, with a stretched version of the STS's rear separator beater added behind it with a CTS auxiliary impeller (this'll chew up some straw and be fun to unplug). It's also got the same size cleaning area as all of the Deere class six walkers had too. The walker housing of this combine isn't any larger than any of the other class six walkers, they're simply adding the separation area under the seapration beater to that of the walkers. The number of walkers has gone from 5 to 6 diminishing the amount of actual separation area that each walker has.

I think the marketing department designed this combine.

xp12300

· #3 · Jun 27, 2008

Is this Lexon Marketing department also.

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« Reply #8 on Jun 25, 2008, 11:47am »

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The reason for higher priced used machines is simply because they are a heavier built machine. If you take similar aged machines between brands and look at wear components, ie: augers, elevator components, ect. you will find that on say a 300 hr. combine, in corn and beans, green and red machines will need these items replaced where as a Lexion will still have in most cases at least another 300 hrs left in these parts before they need replaced.
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Re: Lexion Combine Advice
« Reply #9 on Jun 25, 2008, 7:08pm »

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You're exactly right!

Muddy only 300 hours more then Green and Red, you said the lexion was built heavy, this should be 3000 hours more. NOT

Now Muddy why do you keep looking at the John Deere trends.

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greentech

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 28, 2008

Your monotonous negativity about Deere has become pathetically predictable. I did not post this thread to get your type of reply. I was hoping more for some positive discussion about a new variation of a proven design. Your conditions are nothing like this corner of the continent, so with your narrow-mindedness you will never understand what a machine like this can offer.

ajl

· #5 · Jun 28, 2008

Saw one today on a truck headed east out of Lethbridge AB. Noted the odd model no. then realized it was a walker machine.

Don Boles

· #6 · Jun 28, 2008

A friend of mine will be running one of these South-east of Edmonton this fall, beside 9870's

Don

Jason Hildebrand

· #7 · Jun 28, 2008

Does anybody know what kinda of capacity it is supposed to produce? something like a class 7?

dutchdeere

· #8 · Jun 28, 2008

The T-series combines were introduced in Europe last summer. The machines are produced in Zweibrucken, Germany. The capacity should be close the CTS machines.
I have heard good things about the new T-series. Specially when straw is a bit damp or green these machines should perform much better than a normal walker machine.

over86

· #9 · Jun 28, 2008

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Right, they introduced that T -series last summer /last fall on europes bigges Farm show, and now you can find them at the dealers.
When John Deere had it on that ag -show, they also got a prise for their new & revolutionary concept of using 4 cylinders insted of one.
http://www2.agritechnica.de/en/agrt_deta....3507&SPRACHKZ=E

I don't see a big difference between these Cylinder(s) /beetern and that threshing -sytem New Holland uses in their CX, or even the older TX Combines for some years now ..but if a company pays all that money to get to such an agshow, they should get that medal

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dutchdeere

· #10 · Jun 28, 2008

John Deere claims that straw-quality is better than NH CX/TX.

With the high energy prices straw quality is becoming a more important issue.

If the straw is damaged too much and a few rain showers show up straw volume is decreasing rapidly.

Firts field harvested last week: Red Fescue seed grass

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brewmax

· #11 · Jun 28, 2008

wonder how they will do in the more dry areas such as mine??? just wondering if the extra cylinders and such would grind the straw up more and over load the sieves.

Don Boles

· #12 · Jun 28, 2008

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You really should go to that link and check out the specifications.
Header reverser power (hp )... 80. Ok. I guess that's important.
Vertical tilt (header tilt) – standard (degrees...+/- 9... Hey, isn't that more than NA machines?
And then there's this:
Cylinder speed range standard / Cylinder dual range drive, option (m/sec.)...16.4 – 35.6 / 8.3 – 17.6...

Who wrote that, a professor of threshing fundamentals?
I'm sure the Europeans have replaced that pesky digital rpm tachometer with a m/sec gauge. Ah ha, yes.
Oh the trouble I go to for you guys, (breaks out calculator).
660 X 3.1417=2.073
8.30/2.073 = 4.003X60 = 240 rpm low end.
35.6/2.073 = 17.17X60 = 1030 rpm high end.
Please, please no applause, just throw money.

Don

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Christian A. Herrnboeck

· #13 · Jun 28, 2008

Oh that's nothing Don,

How about this: "Set the actuating mechanism responsible for the regulation of the diesel rotation to the corresponding position to affect the rotation of the diesel crankshaft at 34m/s"

I'd send money, but used all of mine to seed the crop

-Christian

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harsh

· #14 · Jun 28, 2008

Looks like it is similar in concept to the Claas/Lexion with several steps for thrashing and separation before the cleaning area.

larry

· #15 · Jun 28, 2008

It's just another copy. This time the New Holland CX

http://www.newholland.com/FILES/tbl_s54F....PERFORM_LUG.jpg

This is why I am occasionally so "monotonously negative" about this brand. I think it is their mission to see how much of the industry they can actually copy.

greentech

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jun 28, 2008

It's just another copy. This time the New Holland CX

http://www.newholland.com/FILES/tbl_s54F....PERFORM_LUG.jpg

This is why I am occasionally so "monotonously negative" about this brand. I think it is their mission to see how much of the industry they can actually copy.

If you actually looked closely you would've realized that the second beater turns the complete opposite direction and the material goes over top. Geez, I swear it would only be a new design to you if the material went in the chopper and came out the feeder house.

xp12300

· #17 · Jun 29, 2008

If you actually looked closely you would've realized that the second beater turns the complete opposite direction and the material goes over top. Geez, I swear it would only be a new design to you if the material went in the chopper and came out the feeder house.

MUDDY MUDDY MUDDY That is Your Name IT'S MUDDY

larry

· #18 · Jun 29, 2008

Over-shot or under-shot, it simply makes no difference whatsoever. It is still a "variation" on a design made by another inventor/designer/manufacture/brand.

xp12300

· #19 · Jun 29, 2008

From the 2 cylinder to the 6 cylinder are you going to do the same thing. MUDDY MUDDY

larry

· #20 · Jun 29, 2008

From the 2 cylinder to the 6 cylinder are you going to do the same thing. MUDDY MUDDY

I'm sure you'll agree that most 2 cylinders that evolved into 6 cylinders did so using unique methods, unlike their competitors, in order to facilitate and capitalize on the use of proprietary fuel system designs, head designs, the number of valves, etc. Significantly different than feeding material over a cylinder or under a cylinder just to make a minimal difference, which is more like "which direction do a I run the fuel line to the engine."

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