[adsinaus]

Saw that, likewise thought it was an interesting way to approach it/went against convention. Any idea of what rated HPs are then?

 

[Don Boles]

No, but 5 to 7% spread about typical.

Ah, found it, page 23:
http://www.idealharvesting.com/assets/Fendt-IDEAL-Combine-Brochure.pdf
564/647. HP.
NA specs I think.
Wonder if the bigger power rated/max spread (14.7%) is more cushion for the super fast unloading?

Speaking of wide spreads, note the 3600/850 chopper speeds.
Slow must be corn only.

 

[Angelaavant]

Thanks, for the information.

 

[712alberta]

The Bigger Massey

I read this article today. There is an Ideal 10 coming. It says it will have 790 hp from a 16.2l MAN engine. There will be a redesigned cleaning system, under the dual Helix rotors and it will be joystick control, as in NO steering wheel. Should be ready for the harvest in 2021

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/agco-to-unveil-giant-790hp-combine-with-no-steering-wheel/

 

[SK Farmer]

No steering wheel that is so stupid. I don't care how good the machine is I will never buy one. If that fu***ng joy stick works like they do in video games I would have one bent up combine.

 

[silverrod]

I wonder how many of us older farmers would have better backs if we weren't hanging onto a steering wheel most of our lives

 

[Snipe]

No steering wheel that is so stupid. I don't care how good the machine is I will never buy one. If that fu***ng joy stick works like they do in video games I would have one bent up combine.

That’s what most all the Cat grader operators said once now 99% of them won’t go back to the wheel.

 

[Don Boles]

It says it will have 790 hp from a 16.2l MAN engine.

Ah, that’s why the 1500 L fuel tank!

 

[crtrucker]

No steering wheel that is so stupid. I don't care how good the machine is I will never buy one. If that fu***ng joy stick works like they do in video games I would have one bent up combine.

I understand what you are saying SK Farmer and thought that exact thing to at one time, look how many farms are getting skid steers, most now are sold with one joystick for driving/turning. Or how many farmers have a joystick to control their ag loaders on their big tractors, they’ve trained one hand to be as gentle as one hand pushing pulling at old hyd levers, or one hand to do work of two and possibly one foot in there to creep ahead toward something or under something!
I though 6-8 years ago wouldn’t it be nice to get rid of steering console all together so combiner can get FULL view of table while combining straight or pickup, possibly catch something before going into combine also. Always those couple blind spots right in front of you while sitting back. Now with auto steer and grain carts steering wheel is only held on to for less then 20% of the hours we put on in a year anyways. Just my two cents on this.

 

[NWsask]

That’s what most all the Cat grader operators said once now 99% of them won’t go back to the wheel.

I don't think its 99%. Our rm has one of each and the guys all like the steering wheel. Cat is making the steering wheel optional again so that tells me way more than the odd driver wanted it back.

 

[SWMan]

No steering wheel is not a good idea. Might work okay at field speed but road transport is asking for trouble. I don't see the typical retired farmer combine driver adjusting well to that, but maybe you just hire an astronaut to run a combine like that...

 

[kevlar]

I like the idea of no steering wheel. Better view and easier on the shoulders I find. Only problem is it would bother my elbows a bit, years of running older hoes has taken it's toll, on top of running loaders and dozers. Mind you, in a combine, there wouldn't be nearly the same amount of movement required as a hoe. As far as running down the road, I have never heard of a grader hitting the rubarb, and they travel a lot faster than a combine.


And while they are at it, do the same with swathers, make them like a zero turn mower.

 

[joesixpack]

Ah, that’s why the 1500 L fuel tank!

I think AGCO and the Ideal pulled a rope a dope......:22:

On this hand Ideal 9....biggest blah blah blah

Claas took the bait and is set to “revolutionize” harvesting Aug 1st.

On the other hand Aug 2nd BAM Ideal 10.....:22:

 

[Don Boles]

I think AGCO and the Ideal pulled a rope a dope......:22:

On this hand Ideal 9....biggest blah blah blah

Claas took the bait and is set to “revolutionize” harvesting Aug 1st.

On the other hand Aug 2nd BAM Ideal 10.....:22:

Except...Agco has far more proving to do than Claas does.

May as well get back on my dead horse again, with all these recent and upcoming very expensive introductions it would sure be be nice to have a neutral body to run these high-priced machines through some standardized scientific testing even if only reference machine capacity testing initially.
There is likely only 1/3 or less machines sold per year then back in the PAMI hay day, to go into a big purchase blind just goes against my better judgement.

 

[alta66]

Crowd, "AGCO should build a combine like Claas."


AGCO builds a combine like Claas


Crowd, "AGCO are bastards and should know their place."

 

[Don Boles]

Crowd, "AGCO should build a combine like Claas."
H

AGCO builds a combine like Claas


Crowd, "AGCO are bastards and should know their place."

Incorrect.
I want them ALL tested.

And no, fundamentally there is nothing the same in your cited comparison.
Think CR New Holland as the closest match to Ideal.

 

[torriem]

And while they are at it, do the same with swathers, make them like a zero turn mower.

I've always thought the zero-turn mowers were very dangerous and in fact I know someone that was seriously injured by one when a branch caught her arm and the machine spun around quickly. Also the need to scratch a nose is just too much sometimes.

 

[712alberta]

I've always thought the zero-turn mowers were very dangerous and in fact I know someone that was seriously injured by one when a branch caught her arm and the machine spun around quickly. Also the need to scratch a nose is just too much sometimes.

Cub cadet just introduced a Zero Turn mower with a steering wheel. The claim its less fatiguing over the day

 

[meskie]

And while they are at it, do the same with swathers, make them like a zero turn mower.

I’m pretty sure there was a swather like that back in the day with two levers to drive it.

 

[SWMan]

And while they are at it, do the same with swathers, make them like a zero turn mower.

Actually swathers used to be like that. I never ran one myself but don't recall anyone who did being upset when they changed over to steering wheels.

meskie beat me to it...