I’ve operated in the same fields with a Fendt 9 and have ridden in them, if you avoid Agco Fendts just because they are nether red nor are badged MF you are ignoring a very decent machine.Yes our dealer had 3 MF9565 s on order too one was suppose to be sold so it will be interesting to see what happens. We were also thinking of trading our 9560 in, but if this is true we will be shopping elsewhere if AGCO doesn't label an Ideal as a MF with red paint.
I'm sure the Ideal is a fine machine but It will not be our first choice because it is not branded MF. Its all about service and where we are located, Fendt is just a no go logistically. The thing that disappoints me the most is that we are once again removed from options, no wonder John Deere is number one. There is for sure something wrong with AGCO because you hardly see any pure AGCO dealers. They all have multiple lines, which proved to be a good thing when our dealer rolled us into a Versatile when AGCO bailed on the 4WDs. It will be interesting to see what kind of combine he can come up with for us next trade interval. I liked our 8460 so I hope Claas is an option.I’ve operated in the same fields with a Fendt 9 and have ridden in them, if you avoid Agco Fendts just because they are nether red nor are badged MF you are ignoring a very decent machine.
Interesting in Manitoba a neighbour traded in his Masseys for two new green fendts from little Morden Service. I Wondered what the deal was because I thought Fendt was re branding to the grey colored Ideal combine. Those green Fendts must be up selling the Versatile because I have not seen a trace of them in the Red River Valley. They are Popular across europe and seem to have a good track record. I guess Massey not putting the badge on the agco combine explains why the neighbour switch to a green fendt. Looks like the same combine from far but far from good, well i will let him be the judge of that!.So...they are going to trim dealers to even less than they already have?
talked to a dealer today... yes production for this year has been cancelled, But nothing concrete has come from Agco, as of yet on future production of the Masseys.. ( I think like many others the writing is one the wall). Agco had told the dealers before the order dates for the Masseys that they needed 50 orders, they got 36.. Some dealers stepped up but a lot did nothing.. this isn't all on Agco, some dealers have to shoulder the blame..Has agco announced a press release about this yet?
Seems clear that AGCO want to slowly starve out their smaller dealers and focus on corporate stores. That's exactly what happened in Manitoba with CNH, and as a direct consequence the quality of service to most customers has taken a serious turn for the worse.So...they are going to trim dealers to even less than they already have?
Your "square peg in a round hole" comment is interesting. It's almost as if AGCO's North American marketing folks have decided to put all their eggs into the Fendt basket in an effort to take Deere head on. I'm not a marketing specialist, but if that's what they are in fact doing, it seems doomed to fail in a spectacular fashion.talked to a dealer today... yes production for this year has been cancelled, But nothing concrete has come from Agco, as of yet on future production of the Masseys.. ( I think like many others the writing is one the wall). Agco had told the dealers before the order dates for the Masseys that they needed 50 orders, they got 36.. Some dealers stepped up but a lot did nothing.. this isn't all on Agco, some dealers have to shoulder the blame..
My question is.... How many of the Ideals from last year are still sitting on dealer lots? How many Ideals have been ordered for this year? How does Gleaner fit into this?
I don't think the Gleaner or Ideal lines are going to capture the lost Massey sales...there is just too much difference between the 3 of them in design..
as far as the Challenger 4 wheel drive goes, Agco sold a **** lot of them last year and is gaining market share.. it isn't going anywhere in the near future.
Having said all of this... Agco is a square peg trying to fit into a round hole..."as a Farmer with a Massey combine and swather" their business plan for North America sucks as far as I'm concerned.
I don't know about how many were sold this year, the salesman said something threw harvest that last year there was 136 sold in North America. If you go by a dealership and there is a bunch of machines sitting around, they have an extensive update program going on with all of the machine. I don't know what all they are doing as ours is still at the dealer. Since the factory is in Italy all the parts for the change ups are apparently coming from their. If they can keep the sales volumes up they will start production in Hesston. Or so I have been told. Still planning on posting my review of our Ideal, but I want to see what the changeups are before I make that post.My question is.... How many of the Ideals from last year are still sitting on dealer lots?
I think AGCO's problem goes back to when they abandoned the Allis and White lines. They got away with it that time as MF and Gleaner were big enough to carry the company on, but this time I think dropping MF combines are going to hurt the smaller dealers especially in western Canada. The Challenger 4wd is another stupid move, instead they should of given that to MF and let the track unit be Fendt.