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Auto steer and boomspray auto shutoff systems.

Topcon X25 $13,300. Requires use of existing electric steering wheel from X20 system. Upgrade to RTK if desired, extra $5,800.

Trimble 750 $15,500. Upgrade to RTK if desired, extra $10,600.

We've had two X20 Topcon systems, the new unit is to replace one of them, but don't have any existing prejudices either way.

Leaning towards the X25 Topcon.

Thoughts?
 

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I run Topcon and am happier with it than I was with Trimble. If you are happy with the X20, the X25 is a whole new generation but improved from the X20. You can add a wheel angle sensor to the AES-25 and then it will perform as good as any hydraulic system in my opinion. The Topcon is also compatible with signal from a Trimble RTK base station.
 

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Thanks for the reply.

I'm a bit surprised there's no opinions from anyone else out there?
 

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I have had a x25 in my combine for 4 years. I find it excellent. Easy to use with great accuracy using rtk with aes 25 and a wheel angle sensor.
 

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I have had a x25 in my combine for 4 years. I find it excellent. Easy to use with great accuracy using rtk with aes 25 and a wheel angle sensor.
Thanks for the reply.

Anyone used the X25 to do auto steer and auto shutoff?
 

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Yes I use it on a Hardi Navigator and it works a treat. Took a bit to check the timing of the shut off but once it was sorted, it works well and trouble free. I am also running it on CORS.
Will be running a spreader through it as well using the shutoff as well.
 

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Yes I use it on a Hardi Navigator and it works a treat. Took a bit to check the timing of the shut off but once it was sorted, it works well and trouble free. I am also running it on CORS.
Will be running a spreader through it as well using the shutoff as well.
Good to hear you have had success with it. What is CORS?
 

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These were this prices I was quoted at the field days for an x35. I'm pleased you started this thread because I am wanting to change into topcon or Trimble.
That's interesting, I've never been able to get prices from them at any field days, they always say that you have to go to a dealer. I've tried for two years to get a quote from my closest dealer, and so now have gone to one slightly further away and got the quotes straightaway.

I wasn't aware of those specials, but I hadn't considered a X35 as I thought the monitor was too big, tractor cabins get cluttered enough anyway.

A lot of people seem to go for Trimble "because it's cheaper". In my case it hasn't been, but it's not really a completely accurate comparison due to reusing my existing electric steering wheel. I'm pretty surprised that this thread hasn't produced more debate.
 

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There isn't alot of Topcon products around this area, it's mainly Trimble or John Deere. My only concern is with dealer service which is why I am getting out of my current guidance. My Topcon dealer is about 40kms away which is good. Just would like to know what Topcon is like with backup service? Otherwise they look like a good product at a reasonable price .
 

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What is CORS?
CORS is the correction signal that I subscribe too from a network of base stations around the state.
I don't have a private base station as such and can drive anywhere and as long as there is a reasonable phone signal I have a correction for RTK. Been on it over 10 years now and overall find it really good.

From what I understand there are similar systems in most states.
 

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There isn't alot of Topcon products around this area, it's mainly Trimble or John Deere. My only concern is with dealer service which is why I am getting out of my current guidance. My Topcon dealer is about 40kms away which is good. Just would like to know what Topcon is like with backup service? Otherwise they look like a good product at a reasonable price .
Obviously, as with machinery, a lot depends how good your local dealer is.

We have two of the X20 series two's. We've had to have screen and internal battery replacement done. Can't remember what it cost.

One X20 used for spraying on a front wheel steer tractor has performed quite well. The reciever is starting to play up and nobody can tell me much about it.

The other X20 used for seeding on an articulated tractor and is pretty lazy and not particularly impressive. I've looked for suggestions for improvement and not really got anywhere.

Topcon X20 slow locking onto line https://www.thecombineforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265553

X20 series one's are no longer supported.

X20 series two's are still being repaired as far as I know, "until the parts supply runs out" which I was told about 18 months ago would be in about 18 months.

More than that, I can't tell you.
 

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CORS is the correction signal that I subscribe too from a network of base stations around the state.
I don't have a private base station as such and can drive anywhere and as long as there is a reasonable phone signal I have a correction for RTK. Been on it over 10 years now and overall find it really good.

From what I understand there are similar systems in most states.
Righto, I had heard of a mobile phone signal based correction, but didn't know what it was called.
 

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CORRs seems to be an option with most of the main players now, First unit was a Leica and now an Topcon X30 and just purchased a New Holland and have it set up with their inbuilt system. Seems the only addition needed is a modem and some software.
I started for the signal with Vicpos and am now with Smart net. Can run as many machines as I like off the one account. I find it works well.
 
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