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I am looking to see what upgrades people would suggest for the greatest improvement in capacity and grain quality for a 2008 8010.

last year I put a new bubble up auger, new feeder chain, and new feeder shaft, feeder bearings in and the year before new clean grain elevator chain.
This year if I dont trade for something else I am going to probably put in a new cone, cage, rotor bearings, possibly new rotor, new rethrasher spinners, and new chopper blades.

What if anything do people have for suggestions for improving the capabilities of the machine while I have it all apart, and thoughts on aftermarket parts vs oem.

we harvest, lentils, peas, hard red spring wheat, and canola for the most part a few oats, barley and occasional flax as well.

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the only thing I would do that you didn't mention is a better chopper. I just checked on a Redekop for my 8010.. $17K. I take it you don't have the rad plugging problems with yours?
 

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I have internal chopper it sucks but not much to do there. I have no rad plugging issues, but filter plugs quite regularly
 

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I have the same issue puddles.
The ‘08 blocks air filter regularly daily but the radiator is good

The ‘07 blocks radiator easy but air filter can go for a few days.

I have a feeling the Venturi pipe in the muffler might be broken on the ‘08.........?
Can’t hear it rattling in there but there’s no suction at the air filter end. Flappy valve is clean. Think I might try a new muffler this year.
 

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my 06 I can go all season, 800 sep hours without the filter plugging. But the rad is every 2 hours during wheat when its hot
 

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puddles, that 17K was to remove the chopper, put a beater inside and hang a RedeKop on the back like a NH.

I'd like to figure out how to keep my 8010 cool, but I've had no luck, and my dealers all keep the same song, just trade it for an 8120 or newer
 

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wow RCRanch, are you sure your filter sensor is working.

As for your radiator, might be worth considering converting the door and screen to the ‘08 setup. Those fine mesh ones are a pita. The full metal screen and dust extraction system works way better than the other job.

Regardless, your motor shouldn’t run high temp.
Check the fan belt is on the correct way. It can actually go two ways but the latter doesn’t keep the belt as tight and your fan will slip.

Spend a whole day pressure washing your radiator. You will think it’s okay but it won’t be. There will be hard set crap in there that you can’t see. It doesn’t take much of that to create massive cooling deficiencies.
Been there, done that on the 07. After 6 hrs in the paddock washing and blowing it was like a new machine. The crap that came out was mind boggling but I couldn’t see it before.
Added benefit with being clean is it has the ability to suck stuff thru the cores better if your rotary screen leaks.
 

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phantom970, I know my sensor is work, I still pull it a check on the filter every now and then..

As for the cooling, I've spend days laying on the motor with a hot pressure washer washing and blowing. Used every kind of soap you can think of. I've heard the solution is to update the door, but all the dealers I've checked with say its no longer avalialbe. As for the fan, I have put a hydraulic one on, thinking I could speed it up to pull more air thinking that would help... I can't say it doesn't but the rad seems to be plugged deeper than belt driven if that makes sense. If you follow my combine and watch the dust, it swirls up, plugs the screen half up then you'll see a big glob of dust and sh*t come flying out of the engine bay until she starts getting warm... The thing that puzzles the heck out of me, I do not have this problem in barley oats or canola.. Just wheat.. I can go all day on the other crops, and soys I can go for a few days. It must be the fine dust in wheat. I don't have any large particals coming through.
 

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Well that is strange. The two worst crops are giving the least trouble.

Maybe you can get a sheet metal shop to knock up a screen cover door like the JD’s so they suck from the top.

It’s on my to-do list, been there for a few yrs now tho.

Back to the RAD cleaning, your really gotta stand in front on a pallet and with the coolers pulled right out of the way and the swirly blades in there removed. I have never achieved anything from the engine side.

That big plastic panel will fold 90 deg out of the way if you disconnect the sliding rod lock.
You probably know all this already.

Couple of MAVS on the back of mine help somewhat with dust issues
 

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You should definitely put in a vertical auger tube liner in your upright unload before you start to have problems with the tube wearing thin that is part of the grain tank and eventually it will not support your unload auger anymore and also I would put in the stainless steel liners in the grain tank and the stainless liners in the clean and return grain augers so you won’t have to replace the bottom pan if it is already thin or has holes in it theses liners will fix it also a 12 gauge bubble up liner in your bubble up auger in the grain tank if it is worn out or you just want to protect it these slide in liners are all precut pre welded and bolt in you won’t want to replace that bubble up tube on those machines they are very expensive contact your local case ih dealer or . [email protected]
 

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IDK if this is at all relevant to the 8010, but I had terrible radiator plugging issues on one of the JD 7720 combines I had. Like, completely slugged with dust in 5 acres bad. This puzzled me as I had another one that I never had to blow out. My dealer finally figured out that a previous owner had installed a staggered core radiator core, where the vertical tubes were staggered rather than all in a line. It also had smaller openings between the fins. Now, those things make the radiator cool better...in non dusty environments! In high dust environments it just plugs. They replaced the radiator with the correct one, and thats the last time I had to blow it out!

The whole point here was that the screen is designed to keep large crap out, while the dust that can get thru the screen *should* pull right thru the radiator. Having the staggered tubes made it 5000% more likely that the dust would bridge up and pack in the radiator.

You might take a look at your radiator and compare it to radiators on newer machines.
 

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IDK if this is at all relevant to the 8010, but I had terrible radiator plugging issues on one of the JD 7720 combines I had. Like, completely slugged with dust in 5 acres bad. This puzzled me as I had another one that I never had to blow out. My dealer finally figured out that a previous owner had installed a staggered core radiator core, where the vertical tubes were staggered rather than all in a line. It also had smaller openings between the fins. Now, those things make the radiator cool better...in non dusty environments! In high dust environments it just plugs. They replaced the radiator with the correct one, and thats the last time I had to blow it out!

The whole point here was that the screen is designed to keep large crap out, while the dust that can get thru the screen *should* pull right thru the radiator. Having the staggered tubes made it 5000% more likely that the dust would bridge up and pack in the radiator.

You might take a look at your radiator and compare it to radiators on newer machines.

Years ago we did something similar with our 1440. The fan went thru the rad and we had it re-cored. It never cooled the same and was always plugging up. We finally replaced it with a factory rad and it was like a different machine.
 

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the rad is factory, I thought of that myself. As far as the direction of cleaning I've tried both... Its the shits when you battle what should be a simple problem. It is weird though of how the 2 worst crops I don't have problems with.

I've been wet dreaming over Mavs for a couple years, but never have the cash to throw at it

Phantom, I've thought of the JD door, until I saw the neighbors 40 series last year during wheat harvest. Screen is stationary and the brushes rotate. That looks like an idea, but they also have way different coolers and rad. Bigger holes. Thats what my dealer told me today is the next step is set the cooler box up like a 30 or 40 series and my problem will go away. Nothing $10K wont fix right. I've always been sour at the cooling box on these CIHs, my last combine was an 06 23 that had the same dam problem. The JDs use the same idea, with the same rad and cooler stack and you never see those guys stopping to blow out rads... Of coarse they have to get out of the shed first. lol, sorry I had to
 

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Hope you don't mind if I borrow the thread a little, since my question is also about upgrades for my 8010 :)

I'm wondering if anybody knows what it takes/costs to add yield mapping when we have a Pro 600 monitor already? We do not have the yield or moisture sensors on the clean grain, and we do not have an YMIU. I've been lead to believe that I can hook up just GPS (which we have) and a yield sensor on CAN bus and maybe get mapping with that? Or do we have to have the moisture sensor too? The Pro 600 has an option to detect yield sensors from CAN bus or from YMIU, so I'm hoping NOT to buy one of those too.

Second question, does anyone know where I can get a 2 piece finger bearing for the 2020 header? The kind that bolts onto the finger shaft so you don't have to pull the shaft to change them.
 

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That’s really strange those AFS components aren’t on the machine. They are fitted standard from the factory.

Try a wrecking yard?

As for the split retractable finger bearings, you might have to retrofit another brand like JD or something, then cut the fingers length to suit your front. I thought they were clamp bearings already but come to think of it they are the pita one piece R clip type aren’t they?
 

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RC Ranch, another member on here,
SWfarmservice posted some pics of some covers for the IH radiators. Some metal eng joint knocked them up I think. Not the prettiest thing but obviously functional. Maybe worth contacting him on here for a bit more info if your interested.
 

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Sold a lot of Redekop MAV choppers downunder. Considerably better chop and spread than the factory chopper and spinners.
The MAV send the straw and chaff out the back further and suffer less dust and chaff build up in the engine bay. CaseIH now option the Redekop MAV from factory on the 250 series, as the X-Tra Chopping option.
 

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Stelter repair makes them. I called last year and remember them being quite expensive. He said that on some of the Caseih models it causes a derate on the engine power so people only use it on necessary crops. I'm not sure why that would be. Maybe the intake restriction is sensed by the air filter pressure sensor? Was going to make my own for the CR but never got around to it. Didn't have any fire problems with the sunflowers so maybe not necessary.

https://stelterrepair.com/combine-projects
 
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