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Our two 9600s are getting a little old and we are looking for possibly a little more capacity, but mainly more reliability as each has over 3000 hrs. One option would be just getting a couple lower houred 9650s (walker probably), or would one new "monster" combine be able to equal or surpass their capacity?
btw, we harvest around 2000 acres of corn and 2000 acres of soybeans.
 

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1 9770 8 row or 12 if you can keep up. 8 row you can run 5.8 to 6.0 mph in 200 bu. corn yes this is true many neighbors doing this. 35 ft platform or draper head
 

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we run 2 8 rows headers in corn at about 4.5mph each, and 2 30ft bean heads at about 4mph. I figure a big combine could probably cover the same amount of ground in corn, but I dont know if a 35ft platform would be able to keep up with essentially a "60 ft" one.
 

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we upgraded the 9600's this year and bought 1 9770 with 8 row corn head and 36ft draper and it has no problem doin what 2 9600's will do. we cut 1800 acres of corn and 3200 acres of beans with no problem at all.
 

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I run a 12 row on both my 9770 and 9760. I would definitely consider running a 12 row head. I think you could easily get by buying a 9760 with the bullet rotor. If you are already running two combines you have the support to run a 12 row anyways. Put a the new flex draper on for beans and you'll come ahead.
 

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So one 9770 with a 12 row and 36ft draper would be about equal to what we are currently running?
 

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yeah and you need to get a macdon draper for her... 35 or even 40ft to put on the 9770.... don't get a grain head...

good luck...
 

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Can a 9770 really go that much faster with a 40ft draper than our 9600s do with regular 30ft grain heads that it can make up for covering 20ft less per swath (40ft to 60ft)? Not saying you all are wrong, just asking.
 

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How fast are you able to run your 9600's were runnin the 9770 with 36ft draper 6-6.5 mph and not throwin any out of the back and the 9600's would do about 3.4mph and threw alot out the back
 

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that sounds about accurate johnpaul. We can go a little faster, probably due to lesser yeilds. If we got a 40ft draper (deere or macdon or other) would a 9870 be needed or would a 9770 be sufficient?
 

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We are gonna trade our 9770 on a 9870 next season and put a 40ft head on it we just think we will need a little extra HP. our yeilds in beans are from 40-80 bushel and our courn is 190-250 we just think the 98 will handle it a little better but we are very pleased with the 9770.
 

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Maybe you could trade one of 9600 for a 9770 and keep the one 9600 to help on beans, you won't need it for corn, a dealer will only want to take one in on trade anyway.
 

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the theory is however wide you would go with an auger head go that plus 5 feet beacause the draper feeds that much better. I would agree with it. We have a 30' draper on a 9670 and a 35 would be no problem.
 

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I am gonna disagree and say your two 9600 will always outdo one larger combine, especially if its a 9770. You put a 40ft draper on a 9770(which is what I would do) in wheat your gonna drive 4.5mph max, then you got your 9600s doin 60ft at 3mph? Its not hard to figure. Do you unload on the go right now? If not, buy a 9870 with 40ft head(anything but a Deere head) and a grain cart you will be close.
 

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The best thing we ever did was go from two 9600's to one 9860. I'm not gonna say that you can do as much with one as you can with two but it's real close and the biggest benefit to me is that it's a whole lot easier because there is only one combine to service, clean, move, etc. Also, with one you're going to have the best driver on it. Also no confusion on where the grain cart needs to be. Lots of little intangibles like that. A good 97 or 98 can easily do what you're talking about doing.
 

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Hard to believe that one 9770 can take the place of 2 properly set and maintained 9600's. We have a '97 model 9600 that will take 30 ft of 65-70 bu beans at 4.5 mph without kicking any out the back. I got her set pretty loose and the beans 'were' dry, but it'll do it. I understand that a 9770 is whole lot more combine, but double is hard to see. I could be wrong as I've never ran a 9770, but I doubt it. Btw, 3000 hrs is far from wore out. Ours has 3600 eng./2700 sep. hrs. with a lot of life left. Its like the energizer bunny, just keeps going and going....
 
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