***Urea*** Winter/Spring 2015
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How long till people wise up and start bringing in Chinese urea? Pretty sad when they can make it over there and pretty much ship it to your yard for $100 a tonne cheaper. Look at Alibaba $280 to 350 usd at port and another $100 a tonne to ship a container to mid point sask. Enough brave souls do this maybe the oligarchs will drop their prices.
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Wow, I contracted mine for. I better not say the terms on here. I may even feel guilty. I hope my dad got his contracted when I told him. Cattle seem to distract him this time of year and he ends up paying cost at seeding time. Can be almost double the low of the year.
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I know right?! We booked ours wayyyyyy back for wayyyyyy less, this is flat out robbery alreadyHello Cnh007
Pass 'em the Vaseline & touch your toes.
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Since all of us farmers have been doing so good the last few years with good commodity prices, yeah right, wish we could all afford to go on strike! Who knows it might pay off but I don't think our bankers are that keen. Kind of would be neat if it was possible to organize such a stunt
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I remember reading somewhere way back in the 90's when prices were really depressed because of oversupply, that if every farmer summer fallowed their headlands it would be enough to shift the supply balance back in our favour and get prices up.
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A lot of the land farmed is rented. It's tough to pull a quarter or two out for many guys. If you own your ground and aren't saddled with too much debt then a fallow or green manure on a field or two wouldn't hurt with respect to the current situation. I have my canola blend at home so it's taken care of but my cereal fertilizer is unpriced. Yuk! Last time it was bad like now I cut back a bit on fertilizer and still got decent crops. This year I am under seeding some clovers on a third of my land. I realize straight grain guys aren't apt to do this but I figure I'm not going to get bent over by these asshats. What I fear is they are trying to squeeze as much as they can by creating artificial shortages before everyone realizes the world is swimming in urea. They know as we get closer to seeding we are more desperate to secure supply.
Right now Agrium won't give any condo storage to the dealers. They are shorting the supply trying to cause panic. It's a game of five card draw where Agrium holds the best hand maybe. Producers unpriced are most likely hooped but maybe not. The looming transport problems, the fact last years fertilizer bills aren't paid, and uncertainty may see a reduction in inputs in general because the finances aren't there. Seen almost the same scenario some years back. I hope.
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How much are guys being quoted now in sask and alta.?
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Notice how we're being trained, or maybe manipulated is a better word, into buying our fertilizer 6 to 10 months in advance in order to "get the good price"-no risk of financing and less risk of oversupply, plus they get to use our money for free. Then the onus and associated costs for storing and handling the product is being shifted to us the farmer because if we don't "the product is going to be in short supply" or "there will be transportation bottlenecks." And if you don't play along and just simply try to buy the product as needed you are going to get your butt nailed to the wall.
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Trained? I contract my fertilizer with terms. Costs me a few extra dollars, but I don't pay a dime with no interest till August. They deliver it me during harvest to my truck in the field for $10/ton. They would like me to prepurchase it and have it delivered. That would have saved me another $23/ton. Would the $23 be worth it to you? I tell them what I need to have a contract that I purchase from them. They work with me to do that. This is good business in my books. For both of us.
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Heck of a lot more than $23/tonne difference up here. Plus it's getting harder and harder to get spring delivery especially in a timely fashion.
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695 for 46-0-0 in central alberta
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I also think logistics could be a real problem if we all bought in the spring for just in time delivery, especially with road restrictions on.
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Be a nightmare waiting in line at the plant during seeding. A lot more convenient to have it at home anyway. Seed and fertilizer bins all at the same place no hassles. Times I would get the dealer to deliver field loads, heck he would fill my aircart. But they're limited to 10 tonnes.
sent it twice, not sure why it didn't go. Anyway, I was just curious where you got those quotes you mentioned along the SK/MB border. I need a little more coverage going into spring.
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