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HaHaHaHaHa. Yah right!:rolleyes:
I wouldn't laugh to loudly, look at the trends in areas other than grain sales. Agrium comes to mind..........RME...........Titan Machinery.......... as time goes on the list keeps growing. I don't know what to expect but it could go either way. Thats a pretty general statement but we are only 9 months into the new system, time will tell. The bad part about the machinery dealerships is that if RME went **** up, there would be mad panic on the case front in western canada, case values would plummet due only to the dealer network. Their inventories are scary but who am I to judge...
 

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What sucks here is that AWB was grower owned and controlled. Now Cargill own it. We got paid a pittance for it. Graincorp was originally grower owned. They are waiting for someone with tha correct amount in a cheque and then all infrusuctures and ports will be foriegn owned. Not bad when our levies we were charged paid for all this.
It all gets slowly white anted away till the multinationals own it and have control of our grain.
 

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Actually only farmers in the Designated Area. So the peace region of BC, and AB, SK, and MB. They weren't even a monopoly in Canada!
:DRight! How short one's memory can be. I forgot that had I lived in Ontario, I would never have had the board come out to my farm to measure my bins to determine if I was lying or not.;)
 

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I don't think a single desk will do anything to improve price. It only takes a USDA report saying everything is rosy in the US to send good prices to ****. Any chance we can have another drought in the US?
 

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$307 and $309 port zone for 2013 wheat was available to Sa and vic nsw growers respectively for about 9 days mid december didnt anyone see that here in australia?
And wheat swaps got as high as $327 march 14 expiry
we all had opportunity farmers always get to a target then want more once it gets there and complain when it vanished quickly

and current weather related spike is nothing more than a dead cat bounce so sell into it in my opinion

usa canada south america europe australia and russia and most of all india will produce a crop so be careful what you wish for
 

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What sucks here is that AWB was grower owned and controlled. Now Cargill own it. We got paid a pittance for it. Graincorp was originally grower owned. They are waiting for someone with tha correct amount in a cheque and then all infrusuctures and ports will be foriegn owned. Not bad when our levies we were charged paid for all this.
It all gets slowly white anted away till the multinationals own it and have control of our grain.
You nailed it silverod. Same thing happening on this side of the world. Farmers here used to have lot of control. We used to have the CWB along with the grain elevator cooperatives like AB and MB pool and Sask wht pool and UGG. It was so much better when we were the owners and got dividends paid back to us every year instead of to shareholders in far off places. Think of all the money that would have been returned back to the local economy. I was in that system for only a couple of years and farmed only a few hundred acres at that time but I recieved several thousands of dollars back in dividends. But over time the system gets smeared as "socialist", and the big interests start throwing money at its demise and slowly but surely farmers lose control. Ideology seems to have trumped common sense economics.
Just one of the big risks with farmers relinquishing control to the multinationals is that when the going gets tough the shareholder driven companies have no ties to the communities. How many banks have left our communities and yet the credit unions remain. I can't figure out why so many want to give up their ownership stakes. Maybe they should sell their land to the investment companies and then start renting it back. See how that works out for them.
 

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It was so much better when we were the owners and got dividends paid back to us every year instead of to shareholders in far off places. Think of all the money that would have been returned back to the local economy
I actually understand where your coming from Abe. But if I remember correctly the main reason these coops merged and eventually went public was to become more efficient and to latter raise capital so they could build the cement castles on the prairies and ports in far off countries. Which actually just about broke some companies ie sask wheat pool.

It could be argued that the coop's dividend was to high at the time and that's why they needed to raise capital to expand. Now look at some of the producer owner terminals in the country which have been started. Some have been very successful a few have not. Some pay steady annual dividends and some don't. It's like we have come full circle. Coops at the ground level seem to be very successful but when they get huge they seem to lose the main idea why they were started in the first place. Ie building ports in other countries.
That's my rant for the day
 

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$307 and $309 port zone for 2013 wheat was available to Sa and vic nsw growers respectively for about 9 days mid december didnt anyone see that here in australia?
And wheat swaps got as high as $327 march 14 expiry
we all had opportunity farmers always get to a target then want more once it gets there and complain when it vanished quickly

and current weather related spike is nothing more than a dead cat bounce so sell into it in my opinion

usa canada south america europe australia and russia and most of all india will produce a crop so be careful what you wish for

STO it's exactly the same here, the smart farmers sold when prices were climbing and the dumb "I wish we still had the CWB" farmers wanted more because what if the price goes higher.

Grain marketing on my farm is one of the easiest and most enjoyable tasks on my farm.
 

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Biggest problem with the coops are they take thier time and kill off all the competition and then when there is not options left they slowly but surely raise thier prices higher and higher so eventually we have to go to the larger centers to have any purchasing power. And in a lot of cases thier service sucks too.
 
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