[doorknob]

Curious if anyone has tried running a manifold upside down? Primary or secondary? As long as the stand pipe is short from the elbow, the granuals should'nt pickup too much speed. Even then, a rubber cap should help that part out.

May have a need to run one upside down this fall for planting.

 

[NairibinFarms]

I thought on the bourgalt new air seeders they're upside down for section control.

 

[Haystack]

If you crop this photo or zoom in, you can see how they invert the manifolds on the cart and then use universal primary couplers to the planter. I don't think you want too short of pipe on the inversion, or product may concentrate to the outside of the elbow. These inverted stand pipes are also dimpled. This is not an example of sectional control, but it is how the manifolds most likely will be positioned when it goes into regular production.

 

[doorknob]

If you crop this photo or zoom in, you can see how they invert the manifolds on the cart and then use universal primary couplers to the planter. I don't think you want too short of pipe on the inversion, or product may concentrate to the outside of the elbow. These inverted stand pipes are also dimpled. This is not an example of sectional control, but it is how the manifolds most likely will be positioned when it goes into regular production.

Wow, that's quite a nice cart.
On the manifolds on the drill though, can be they be turned up side down and fed from the top? In other words, the way things are usually, the elbow is fed from a pipe on the drill frame and the distributor is above the elbow, then the product flows down to the openers. I may need to have the pipe way up over the drill and then elbow the product down to the distributor and out to the openers. Would that work?

 

[NairibinFarms]

Yep that same set up if I'm understanding you correctly in on Multistream DBS bars in Australia. Large primary head in the middle of the bar running down to lower secondary heads across the bar.

 

[rickfly]

generally you could invert the manifold, as mentioned previously a dimple tube needs to be in place, these are designed to agitate and supposedly equalize distribution of product after it has conveyed and perhaps rounded a bend and or travelled far enough to perhaps start to hug one side of the hose. once the product is in motion it acts as a fluid, so if you hold your sprinkler upside down will it work? of course it will..

 

[meskie]

Old Bourgault drills used to invert manifolds on them. Here is a picture I found quickly.

 

[doorknob]

Awesome. Thanks Meskie. That is basically what I need to do. Good to know it has been done before. Thanks.

 

[meskie]

Not a problem. If I remember right those tubes were not dimpled either. Just smooth pipe.

 

[wheely]

Been done for a long long time. The bars are CP6 & 7 Morris and the carts are 1981 & 83

 

[doorknob]

Wheely, that is perfect. Thank you for the picture.

Just to say a bit about what I hope to do this fall. I have a Flexi 3450 tbh that I hope to tow behind a home made seeding tool. This is the tool, though I have made several tooling changes to it already.

I wish to put my strip till tool bar on the back with seeding boots on it. To tow the cart, a hitch will have to go over the strip till bar. So I thought rather than have the hoses go up over the bar, then back down to the frame, then back up to the distributors, why not just do similar to Wheely's setup?

 

[wheely]

Here's another view for you. It's been awhile since we used this setup but I remember if there was to much sag in the 3" hoses they would block up but at your width that shouldn't be a problem

 

[Andrew_D]

Older JD seeders had inverted distributors as well.

Andrew

 

[wetfarmer]

gotta love the combine forum! question answered.

 

[westaus]

If you crop this photo or zoom in, you can see how they invert the manifolds on the cart and then use universal primary couplers to the planter. I don't think you want too short of pipe on the inversion, or product may concentrate to the outside of the elbow. These inverted stand pipes are also dimpled. This is not an example of sectional control, but it is how the manifolds most likely will be positioned when it goes into regular production.

Are those tracks aftermarket or is Bourgault looking at a factory option?

 

[doorknob]

gotta love the combine forum! question answered.

That's right. I did'nt even bother asking anywhere else. I knew if anyone would know about air seeders it would be here.

 

[Haystack]

Are those tracks aftermarket or is Bourgault looking at a factory option?

They are Elmer's Transfer Tracks and they are not factory installed. Wheels were removed in this case. I don't think Bourgault had plans for tracks at this point in time, so I don't know what policy they may come up with for anyone wanting to put tracks on a 7950.

There are a few interference issues with the pallet platform if you have a saddle tank option. We just haven't spent the time to cut the adapter brackets, and do it all so it can be easily replicated. It won't be a big deal.

http://www.elmersmfg.com/products/transfer-tracks.html

They also offer Power Tracks, using your tractors PTO and a hydrostatic power train.
http://www.elmersmfg.com/products/power-tracks.html
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