[Ed_Hunter]

I am surprised That The highest average yielding Canola is Invigor health. It says province wide, is 45 bpa.

High average yield and a price premium, sounds great for us and for marketing to consumers.

Now that is on only 2036 acres

How many people use this information to pick variety to grow?
I like that is based on real number from farmer all over the province?( their crop insurance reported numbers)

Like to know more about the new flax variety " Glas " seems to have a much high yield?

 

[mbfarmer]

It's great info but I won't take any info seriously if it's only on 2000 acres.

 

[bcf]

Invigor was once again yield and acre king in Manitoba.

 

[SWMan]

Invigor was once again yield and acre king in Manitoba.

Not in my area according to the published #'s from crop insurance but like mbfarmer said, I wouldn't take it too seriously. Main reason is that there are a lot of farmers that won't waste their time with crop insurance....myself being one of them! So those farmer's yields are not known and surely not factored into those results.

 

[wetfarmer]

I'd love to have the privilege of not wasting my time with crop insurance. Main reason not to pay attention is sample size and quality of data due to people not bothering to report accurately and just averaging their numbers. I know I don't report field by field but tend to average most things.

 

[Andrew_D]

I'd love to have the privilege of not wasting my time with crop insurance. Main reason not to pay attention is sample size and quality of data due to people not bothering to report accurately and just averaging their numbers. I know I don't report field by field but tend to average most things.

True, but when you're looking at a province-worth of data, the majority of the bad reporting gets averaged out. Better than listening to 1 or 2 guys reporting that variety X did 10 bu/ac better than variety Y at the coffee shop.

Same reason that the market still listens to the USDA or StatsCan reports when they know there are farmers out there either not reporting or mis-reporting their data.....

Andrew

 

[brazil07]

Crop insurance numbers -pretty serious around here

Maybe it is different in Manitoba, but in Central Alberta our single biggest per acre cost for pretty much all crops is crop insurance(including hail endorsement and straight hail). Some people would question why you would bother with this expense, but when you check the detail in our report(gives entire farm history of premiums paid vs claims collected) it would be idiotic not to carry this insurance - 2014 was actually the only yr in recent memory where our premiums were not recouped(if you asking why/how this is possible really need to look at the who is paying for your insurance cost). On top of this 2014 was actually the only yr in recent memory where crop insurance reports have not been audited - IE farm stocks/shipping receipts all reconciled by afsc adjuster. For this reason I actually think crop insurance numbers quite a bit more meaningful than most farmers' "estimates" of yields. It would be my guess that most people spend much more time planning crop rotation/machinery settings than they do on their crop insurance and there some pretty low-hanging fruit that falls on the ground and rots.

 

[SWMan]

Maybe it is different in Manitoba, but in Central Alberta our single biggest per acre cost for pretty much all crops is crop insurance(including hail endorsement and straight hail). Some people would question why you would bother with this expense, but when you check the detail in our report(gives entire farm history of premiums paid vs claims collected) it would be idiotic not to carry this insurance - 2014 was actually the only yr in recent memory where our premiums were not recouped(if you asking why/how this is possible really need to look at the who is paying for your insurance cost). On top of this 2014 was actually the only yr in recent memory where crop insurance reports have not been audited - IE farm stocks/shipping receipts all reconciled by afsc adjuster. For this reason I actually think crop insurance numbers quite a bit more meaningful than most farmers' "estimates" of yields. It would be my guess that most people spend much more time planning crop rotation/machinery settings than they do on their crop insurance and there some pretty low-hanging fruit that falls on the ground and rots.

Yeah I have been through this with the AB guys on here before. If you guys are getting subsidized through your crop insurance program in AB good for you! No free lunch in MB though.....just onerous paperwork and wasted time!

 

[coolio]

I didn't realize that my crop insurance was subsidized.....I will have to look into this.....Judging by my premiums, I wouldn't have thought they were....If we didn't carry crop insurance, there is no doubt that our farm would have been broke many decades ago......it is a rare occurance to NOT get hail here.

 

[brazil07]

AB and MB insurance the same

Unless info I have looked at is wrong these are exactly the same with producer covering 40% and fed/prov making up other 60%. A sharp operator explained it once to me like this. If you playing 3 handed poker with everybody throwing in ante and you are the only one collecting would you not want to be part of that game? I think people would be surprised how many operators opt out and/or mismanage this gimme - not taking advantage of early pay discounts is easiest way to do this - and than complain about their margins. People say things like self insurance is so much better, but that only the case if you paying all of the premium.

 

[SWMan]

Unless info I have looked at is wrong these are exactly the same with producer covering 40% and fed/prov making up other 60%. A sharp operator explained it once to me like this. If you playing 3 handed poker with everybody throwing in ante and you are the only one collecting would you not want to be part of that game? I think people would be surprised how many operators opt out and/or mismanage this gimme - not taking advantage of early pay discounts is easiest way to do this - and than complain about their margins. People say things like self insurance is so much better, but that only the case if you paying all of the premium.

Well MB crop insurance would likely be about 85% used up by bureaucracy from my estimation.... Sure there might be some guys purposely tanking a field or two of a certain crop but that will only last so long until his/her reference margin is pooched. Any loopholes that would regularly pay out get closed fast. I actually think it's great because why should I let some stupid farm program influence how I grow my crops/when I start or stop seeding/what I grow! I personally feel all gov't programs should be scrapped along with burdensome regulation too. I know some other countries give large farmer supports, but again, that can't last forever either.

So I guess if the AB guys are putting in $4 they could be getting back $10 if there were no costs to run the program? I suppose listening to some guys on here that might not be far off the truth. Not something you want to lean on too hard though.

 

[Kurt]

No cropinssurance is fine , but no inssurance is playing poker in my books .
Unless your farming in a area , without massive stupid weather .
Remind me about a fam around Melfort 10 years ago , the son' s wanted to scrap crop and hail insurance cause dad paid in for as long he was farming , dad said one more year and then you guys are on your own I quit.
They got the mother of all hailstorms ever seen in that area that season .......

 

[Christian A. Herrnboeck]

Alberta has a better program than Sask... We have a way better program than MB.

I agree in part with SWman on this... MB Crop Insurance is such a waste sometimes (like if you've been flooded out for 3 or 4 years)... Plus I don't know where the historical averages come from... We paid the same $/acre for 15 bu/acre coverage in Manitoba as we do here for 32 bu/acre.

 

[peterbilt]

I think crop ins is a flawed system, in Mb anyways. Better than a no insurance option but could be improved. What's about GARS? Anyone using it? Sort of seems like same end result worded differently, but still keep pondering getting a rep out for a spiel.