i wold appreciate some imput on the ruggedness and accuracy of the white pull planters. i've heard some good things about them. i'm looking at a 16 row centerfill. i like the simple seed delivery but is the row unit as good as the 1200
to buy or not to buy a white planter
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Not sure whats wrong with kinze...they must be doing something right if green guys will even buy them!!
I read awhile back about planter market share in North America- if I remember correctly White was near the bottom of the list and Kinze was near the top- I'm sure that White has a few area's that they market some planters but they have always been known as a decent planter "for the money". Yeah Kinze has never built any good planters or grain carts- that's why the company has been so successful
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Never said they weren't successful, I just said I've never been impressed with anything from Kize. And this whole idea of who owns the planter market is a hard one to discuss. I've heard White owned it for a while, But I've also heard Deere was the man. Heard not too long ago that Case is taking over. I've never heard anything about Kinze being the top dog.
Conner, no one company "owns" the planter market. There is no doubt that Deere has the largest market share in the planter market- Do yourself a favor and go to any on-line classified listing and see how many used planters of each brand are out there- Deere has the most by a long stretch followed by Kinze then White or Case. This might not be an exact indictor of who is selling the most new planters, but fairly representative. The important thing is to buy the planter that has the best parts/service available.
Like I said, hard one to discuss. We used to see some Kinzes a number of years ago, now they're nearly non-existent for a ways around here. Local Case/Agco dealer salesman a few years back said he had White planters outselling Case 9 to 1. That coming from the salesman himself and he has no reason to be biased toward either brand.
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Within 5 miles of our farm there were 3 White planters that went to another color just this past year. One went Case the other two Kinze. Two years ago two others switched one went Kinze the other Deere. Now I will say the White meter is very bulletproof. It can be a little aggravating changing seed discs or air pressure in corn, but over the long term they won't cost much to operate. The downfall to me is the weight and this never ending circus of toolbar and tire designs. The row units are still too close together and while the new toolbars are better than the 8100's(splitters) these screwy tire combos are a joke.
I had a real hard time going back to the finger PU on the Kinze, but I must say for less money I think I have the better planter for my farm. Here in Southern IL resale has started to suffer on the Whites as well. The bottom line is the White is a good planter and probably plants as accurate as anything out there. If I were going with a straight 30" row planter w/o fert I would probably go White. But for 15" rows and/or with fert my personal preference would be green or blue(now red ones around here to speak of so I know nothing about them). In the end a big part of your decision will come down to how good your local dealer supports those products.
Like I said, hard one to discuss. We used to see some Kinzes a number of years ago, now they're nearly non-existent for a ways around here. Local Case/Agco dealer salesman a few years back said he had White planters outselling Case 9 to 1. That coming from the salesman himself and he has no reason to be biased toward either brand.
I had a real hard time going back to the finger PU on the Kinze, but I must say for less money I think I have the better planter for my farm. Here in Southern IL resale has started to suffer on the Whites as well. The bottom line is the White is a good planter and probably plants as accurate as anything out there. If I were going with a straight 30" row planter w/o fert I would probably go White. But for 15" rows and/or with fert my personal preference would be green or blue(now red ones around here to speak of so I know nothing about them). In the end a big part of your decision will come down to how good your local dealer supports those products.
Like I said, hard one to discuss. We used to see some Kinzes a number of years ago, now they're nearly non-existent for a ways around here. Local Case/Agco dealer salesman a few years back said he had White planters outselling Case 9 to 1. That coming from the salesman himself and he has no reason to be biased toward either brand.
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We just finished our 2nd season with a White 8516 CFS set @ 30" rows. It's performed well and this year someone came out and did a seed spacing study on it. He said it was near flawless and did the best when compared to the CIH and Deere planters he'd also checked.
We previously ran 800 and 900 series CIH air planters and the depth control was excellent on them but the seed spacing was not good.
Both the Deere and CIH planters are good machines but we couldn't get a Deere and the CIH 1250 front fold wasn't available yet. So that's why we bought a White after hearing many good reports about them.
We previously ran 800 and 900 series CIH air planters and the depth control was excellent on them but the seed spacing was not good.
Both the Deere and CIH planters are good machines but we couldn't get a Deere and the CIH 1250 front fold wasn't available yet. So that's why we bought a White after hearing many good reports about them.
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I bought a new 8831 - 16/31 split row narrow transport White planter this spring I Love it. It is very well built and the seed drop is second to none. This is my 5th White planter. Very happy with White planters.
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Uof ILL. Perdue Univ. Pioneer Hybrid, and Monsanto all did independant testing of JD VAC - JD FINGER - KINZE VAC - KINZE FINGER - CASE IH - AND WHITE planters. The White planter won all categories, ie. speed and seed drop and spacing.
Have a 6180 White 12 row that I pull everywhere with a 90hp MFD. (have to try real hard to stay under 6 mph) The simplicity of the planting mechanism and the final stand accuracy is the sales point of the White. Still hasn't been beat. The fly in the ointment is in identity preserved crops and the clean out of every seed. If you plant soybeans you'll be in love with the stand accuracy and the fact that seed size is not important, just set the population you want and go plant.
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row markers, every row unit, opener coulter hubs, lift linkage, row cleaners, yadda yadda yadda.
I purchased a 8424CF this spring overall I love it. Had some issues at first-they had a manual switch that you had to flip to turn the machine on and off; what a bunch of BS. But they came out and installed a switch that was activated on the lift. I tryed to run the planter through the Fendt terminal because thats whats its supposed to do right, well quess not. There was a little confusion nobody seemed to know the answer but they sent a AGCO rep out and the guys in Germany finnally said it wasn't going to work but they put a monitor on it and made everything right. I would say they were very good to work with.
As far as the job it does I would say excellant and I only had one downtime incidant in 2500 acres. That was a popit ball that blew out of a hyd proportioning valve what was probably an outsourced part but the mechanics at my dealer stayed late and got it fixed with a little home made enginering.
The last two planters were a 955 and a 1200 caseih. They had way too many part replacement issues-Closeing dics, downpressure springs,furrow firming points and shoes plus both of them the pivot points for the guage wheels were completely shot and would flop all over; I would rather have grease fittings than have the wheels flopping around.
As far as the job it does I would say excellant and I only had one downtime incidant in 2500 acres. That was a popit ball that blew out of a hyd proportioning valve what was probably an outsourced part but the mechanics at my dealer stayed late and got it fixed with a little home made enginering.
The last two planters were a 955 and a 1200 caseih. They had way too many part replacement issues-Closeing dics, downpressure springs,furrow firming points and shoes plus both of them the pivot points for the guage wheels were completely shot and would flop all over; I would rather have grease fittings than have the wheels flopping around.
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has anyone ran a 8816 cf
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Okieclayfarmer, Its probably a little late for me to weigh in, but I have a White 8700 planter (8000 series units on an Orthman stack bar). Before that I owned 2 Kinze finger planters. I really appreciate the simplicity of the White unit. With the Kinze I had to take the finger units to the Meter Max guy every year to get a uniform stand. Its also nice not to have to remember the graphite or talc. I would recommend getting the heavy duty down pressure springs.
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