That looks really stout but is there a quick way to hook and un hook it? And it looks like that brace link could get in the way of the PTO on a cart.

 

Good point, the brace was there for the extra tongue load of Yielder so it may not be as necessary for a grain cart. We will also work on a version with quick release, but for high load capacity, stregnth was the 1st concern, hence the brace and bolt together keepers.

 

Makes sense, just the issues i saw with it. Looks built heck for stout. What would a set up like that run for the tractor and cart sides?

 

I talked to the designer and he assured me the brace was there because of the HIGH tongue weight of the Yielder and not necessary for grain carts, in fact I think he's already designed it out of the newest version. He also stated if it were bolted to the sway bar the brace was not needed. I can't say prices since its not set and I dont want to get myself in trouble!

 

After numerous requests for more info the ball is rolling and a price has been set for $2000 for the 6" ball and socket combo. Availability in one month or less as of today.
We are also discussing 3, 4, 5, and 8 inch designs.
Inquiries welcome!

 

I think if you can design that brace into the system but still be able to use the PTO that would be great, after seeing carts pulled off the back of tractors were the stress on the drawbar has snapped it out of the bell housing on the tractor, it would save on the hodge bodge of chains around the drawbar and link arms we used to run to take the flex of the drawbar

 

We're certain the brace does not need to be there for grain cart use as it was originally put there because of the tremendous tongue weight of the old Yielder drill.

 

why not a 80 mm ball like you see in Europe?? There are many manufactures over there, and it would not be anywhere near $2000. Great way to hook up, been thinking about getting some for some of our applications. Grain cart, planter,drill, manure tankers.

 

I always wondered why they don't just use pintle hitches for ag use.

 

We have, had them on silage trailers behind JCB Fastracs. There is still some slop in a pintle and they do wear out quicker than you would think if there is much tongue weight. The 80 mm ball allows for grease and NO slop at all.

 

I thought you were talking about using this ball on a grain cart. That would not be that much tongue weight, 5-8000#. Is this not the grain cart page? A 80mm ball would be more than enough for this weight requirement, and easy/ quick to hook up, and less than a thousand dollars easy.

 

Because of tongue weight capability. We are looking at doing smaller sets for lower tongue weight capabilities and lower cost.

 

The whole thing becomes much easier/ better if you do it like the continental europeans, turn the drawbar on the cart over, fit the ball above the pto and have the drawbar running up to the tractor. You can make tight turns without the pto being hindered by the drawbar or link arms and you get more ground clearance, only trouble with it is its a swine to hitch up by comparison to the pick up hitches we use, but then you guys are used to a fixed hitch anyway.
You can get a ball that would snap that deere in half before it broke over here and it wouldnt be 8 inches, everyone knows more than 6 is showing off!!

 

I don't see how that makes it better mattargett. If the hitch were to break it could bend your pto. Also it is raising the hitch point higher which will want raise the front of the tractor especially under a heavy draft.

 

matttargett4, I'd like to see a picture, I have a rough idea, but not exactly sure what you man.

I don't see a real big advantage to the big-ass ball. I mean, it's a good concept, but seems somewhat inconvenient to remove or hook up.

Wouldn't some form of 3PTH pivot work? Might cause excessive wear, like a pintle, but if you've got enough tractor on the cart I'd imagine it would be able to handle the weight. Might be a little long, giving more leverage against the front wheels. I'm curious because I see this more and more on big discbines and other implements.

 

6 inch ball rated 140,000 pounds pull. Up to 30,000 pounds of Tongue load. $2,200.
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The picture is from the first customer to install the hitch. I will be posting video of it in action in a couple weeks.

 

Because of tongue weight capability. We are looking at doing smaller sets for lower tongue weight capabilities and lower cost.

Why the tongue weight capability?
The Scharmüller K110 has a permitted vertical load capacity about 27'500lb.
http://www.scharmueller.at/index.php?id=15&no_cache=1&L=1&tx_ttnews[pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=40&tx_ttnews[backPid]=4

 

Because of tongue weight capability. We are looking at doing smaller sets for lower tongue weight capabilities and lower cost.

Why the tongue weight capability?
The Scharmüller K110 has a permitted vertical load capacity about 27'500lb.
SCHARMÜLLER. News-Detail.[pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=40&tx_ttnews[backPid]=4

Wiith the K110 what is the rated load for pulling. is it rated high enough to for a reasonably large seeding rig behind a 350 hp tractor