Just wait, it's still being developed and tested this year. You'll probably see it next year (Euro only).

 

Look on the Massey web site, it is available in europe now, its called the Cerea or something like that.

 

The Cerea and Beta are already available in Europe, but neither is the "hybrid" machine the wanderer is asking about. As I said before, the new hybrid is still being tested.

 

There's supposed to be a rotary with some sort of conventional cylinder or pre thresher according to someone who saw the three prototypes in Germany. There were engineers there from Europe, North America, South America and maybe another area of the world like Australia. There was also a Euro type conventional there too as well as the regular rotor which was probably the 9895 with older style tin work on the outside. That's what was said on one of the boards which has alot of Euro contributors.

 

The MF UK website is quoting the Cerea at ;

MF 7274 370 Gross HP
MF 7278 413 " "

http://www.masseyferguson.com/agco/mf/uk/products/Harvesting/CEREA.htm

 

Maybe for the European markets but, I doubt that AGCO is pursuing new combine technology for the US and Canada (it's not their style). As far as a "hybrid" goes, that could be anything.

 

Harsh the cerea is not that differet from the old dronningborg combines that they are based on.
ozzybigbird here in europe the crops do get pretty dense and the further north you get the wetter and more miserable it gets to be a combine, claas didn`t invent their lexion for the fun off it as simple as the axialrotor princip seems to be it never really gained much popularity here other than with the die hard CIH guys. however i am very exited to get to finally see a massey combine around here again that might be able to match a lexion.

Bo

 

Quote:AGCO has been playing with a cts or lexon type combine,but all companies have two or three different machines on the drawing board at once.My guess is once they make sure that the 9895 is realising all expectations this other one might fade,whats the point ,the 9895 is only limited by engine size and that is easy fixed,put 550 hp in there and you have a very simple monster.

Limited by engine size!?!?! Do you have any idea what 1 horsepower costs on modern combines today? $500 - $700 USD. What are you willing to pay for that 125hp increase to get the 9895 to 550hp? $75,000 USD? Not good value! The 425hp C13 CAT engine certainly gives the Cat lexion 580R enough ponies to walk the dog over the competition, why can't it do the same in the Massey? It's not the engine dude, its how the combine is using (or not using) the available power. That unique hydro rotor drive is the limiting factor, not its horsepower. Put a belt drive variator in its place and see what happens. You'd have the axial flow that CaseIH still dreams of.

 

There must be a way you can rework that post so you can slam deere there too!!!
Your posts make me laugh muddy, you must be one grumpy SOB to be around.
Why all the hate, they make pills for that you know.

 

Instead of slamming Muddy; Kinzepower; why don't you lay out some facts and figures as you see them?

 

I not trying to slam anyone, it just seems that Muddy has a disproportionetly high number of posts that are negative or antagonsitic, c'mon read it again. And tell me what does his post have to do with the original question about a big MF hybrid...nothing.
I was just trying to add some levity to the thread.

 

Im with you Kinze