I have been told you can order a sunnybrook via AGCO for your Lexion. They deal with sunnybrook. Call Sunnybrook and they will give you the AGCO part number.

I think they are the real deal. I wish they came with them.

 

Are they an improvement over the new enclosed cylinder from claas? Or is it pretty much the same thing? Just an improvement ovrr the open style?

 

What kind of cost are you looking at for the Sunnybrook?

 

Had one of the first totally enclosed high inertia Sunnybrook cylinders and concave in a Claas 108 back in the early 1990's .It was a night and day difference in performance .We had the Sunnybrook cylinder and concave with the staggered boronized bars installed in our JD 9600 back around 2004 . Would not run anything else in a conventional machine . When changing bars the bolts need to be preheated to melt the locktite and USE NEW hardware when installing new bars the nice part is if you have damaged bars you have to install a shorter segment rather than a full width bar . It is a very aggressive cylinder and has a more continuous load on the drive instead of a dynamic , pulsing load . Gerald is a very knowledgeable guy and would be a good person to answer your questions . Hope this helps !

 

I called up to SB the other day and had a talk while I was combining.

Cost...four digits and between 0 and 10!

Claas enclosed cylinder...they laughed. Theirs is 1/4" thick shell, water tight.
James Cameron tested it while filming the Titanic in the Atlantic! (j/k)

Theirs weighs around 800#!


My concerns...
Will it roll corn off a cob from the shorter rasp bar segments? (think CIH standard vs. specialty in corn, standard is better)

People talk about how "aggressive" it is. That sounds like a bad thing to me, seed producer. I want to believe the term aggressive should be replaced with "efficient" but I'm not sure.


Bleedred, I think you have a neighbor about to try a SB.

 

Enclosed cylinders are much smoother and don't get out of balance. I think all conventional combines should come with them. Much less slugging of cylinder due to staggered shorter rasp bars as already mentioned. Have one in my 480 Cat. Would never go back. Makes the combine work to get it going in high range, but once it is going, it goes good. Don't think I have ever plugged it. That doesn't mean I didn't come close a time or two. I am also quite sure that with a regular cylinder those times would have been, let's say, unpleasant.

 

We had a sunnybrook in a 9600.traded to a 9610 and swapped the sunny over to that machine and added the sunny concave and beater.this was an absolutely incredible enhancement to that machine.(I love it when that happens)so much smoother,incredible inertia,and the aggressive spiked beater would shred the straw mat and let the walkers do a better job therefor less grain out back.running lexion now,and I'm sure a sunnybrook cyl,concave conversion would make an already hungry combine perform much better.I would not however install the cylinder without the concave.the stock lexion concave always did look flimsy to me.one downside to an enclosed cylinder is it's hard to see in behind it if need be.

 

the wire concave is a bit more susceptible to damage compared to the beefy roundbar that I installed.

 

I placed the order for my sunnybrook the other day for my 585R, I am concerned about it being to aggressive in corn and seed beans?

Can anyone comment on what to expect? I am running .4 on BCFM this year, I am amazed at how nice my corn sample it out of my stock machine. Will the sunny be to aggressive?

 

I too wonder greatly about the "aggressive" nature of the Sunnybrook. I have fought the 740 stock with splits in soybeans and wouldn't want to add any more challenge to the fight.

 

has anyone put a sunnybrooke in a cx 860/8080?

 

http://www.sunnybrookwelding.com/enclosed_cylinder.pdf

When the term "aggressive" is used regarding the cylinder design, it means that the cross section of the "rasp bar" has a near vertical leading edge (7 degrees off vertical). The cylinder draws in material aggressively, as compared to the "rub bar" that has a 45 degree leading face and round crested teeth. Gear pump vs Centrifugal. Result is about 40 percent less weight down on the concave....less grain damage is what we hear back from the customer.
Feel free to call/email and ask us for a Operator reference.

Someone a few posts back was worried about the short rasp bar segments not threshing corn. Rotary threshing elements are 3-4 " that have this problem. Our rasp bars are 12-17" long

 

Don says his factory enclosed cylinder is less damaging then the open design.

 

We run a 480 and 590, both have SB cylinders and SB wear kits on the impeller. I like the enclosed concept as they stay balanced.They feed crop in better and when a slug does go in ,the inertia helps put it through with less damage to the belts and the shafts. Some people have claimed a fuel saving from the smoother flow. I have never bent a concave with either machine with the SB cylinder, unlike several others I have known that did bend concaves with the stock cylinder, just as it says in the SB post. Threshing is very thorough- less whitecaps than others running stock and dockage is very acceptable. Dry wheat runs .4 and higher including weeds and dry canola is about the same so IMHO I don't see a problem with overthreshing. I have worked with SB on designing and modifying a few things and they are a bunch of down to earth guys you can talk to. Cheers Barry.
Also I ran a SB cylinder in a TX 66 with good results.

 

Transaxial what do you have to remove to get the sb cylinder into a 590r? Do you put it in through the side or do you have to take off the aps and go through the front? With a sunny brook cylinder is it as prone to bending the cylinder shaft as the claas design?

 

Transaxial what do you have to remove to get the sb cylinder into a 590r? Do you put it in through the side or do you have to take off the aps and go through the front? With a sunny brook cylinder is it as prone to bending the cylinder shaft as the claas design?

You have take off the wheel on the right side and depending on what you have to lift the new SB into the opening with, maybe the side cover. If you have a small jib on a skid steer or a good engine lifter you are ok going under the side cover. With the wheel off the right side, the side opening for the cylinder comes off and after getting bearings loose, the whole cylinder comes out the right side. Be prepared for 700 to 800 pounds of weight up quite high. The Sunnybrook does not use the stock cylinder shaft so if you have a bent shaft now ,the conversion save you $750. SB uses bolt on stub shafts that are centered on the end plates of the unit. As far as bent shafts go, my shaft was bent on my 590 at 240 hours when I bought it. It was a easy decision to make the switch at that point. With 1000 hrs now, no problems. No problems on my 480 either with 1400 hrs on a SB conversion. SB does build some high quality components but I do not know details on materials or size of shafts. I know they use new bearings when mounting a conversion but can't remember if the size is different. It takes a long day for two guys that know what they are doing to make the switch, but if you can do it in the off season it is such a great opportunity to do all the other things in that area that you may want to do. Like impeller updates, green crop kit, APS work and balance, check/remove concave. You don't have to take the feeder house off, but if you want to really open things up for work that is worth the time. I think the extra weight and inertia of the much heavier rotor helps a lot with not bending shafts. Think of how much side pull there is on both shafts when the cylinder stops and that C13 does not!! Also the "knuckles" and rub bar segments are way better at tearing apart potential slugs to the cylinder and concave.At 1500 thresher hours also change sieve hanger rubber bushings and drive bearings.

 

I've got a new set of the boron bars for my stick cylinder in the shed and have ordered the new sb concave with the modular segment in it and you can get all the sb stuff thru agco. Cheaper than claas that's for sure