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Canola Regrowth in Unharvested Crop

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#1 · (Edited)
Pulled into the canola this evening expecting it to be really dry but to my amazement the combine moisture tester was up around 16-18. This is straight cut L233 seeded mid May. Had 8 tenths of rain about 10 days ago. Last rain was June 7. Was a drought here and might be a 15-20bu/ac crop. Hopped into tank and the canola itself is indeed dry but there is a ton of green material from new buds on stems and new leaf material. It tested 11.5 on the moisture tester back at the yard. Is this green stuff going to dry down in the air bin if we cut it now?

It’s going to be super expensive to reglone and glyphosate will take forever. There are no existing sprayer tracks in the fields so will lose a decent amount to tramping. Swathing is hardly an option in this area with a light crop and bad winds we often get. What’s the best option here?
 

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#3 ·
2 options.. both suck.
Glyph and wait * its only end of aug..and if its a podshatter variety then leave it be for 20 days and then look at it.
Or...
If you have enough bin space with air just get it done now and call it a day. The warm days we have coming will absolutely dry that green crap out.. its gonna be higher dockage no doubt but pffttt.. in 21 we combine swathed canola with blooming between the rows. Lots of yellow petals going into the bins .
Why throw good money at bad and waste time and chem?
If youre short production.. then youre short.. take the cheque and be done with it!

Dont bother with heat or reglone. Either 1 of those costs 0.75 to 1 bushel/ ac in chem cost alone.
You wont lose it in a bin. Throw an opi cable in there or turn on the fans for a week.
 
#7 ·
2 options.. both suck.
Glyph and wait * its only end of aug..and if its a podshatter variety then leave it be for 20 days and then look at it.
Or...
If you have enough bin space with air just get it done now and call it a day. The warm days we have coming will absolutely dry that green crap out.. its gonna be higher dockage no doubt but pffttt.. in 21 we combine swathed canola with blooming between the rows. Lots of yellow petals going into the bins .
Why throw good money at bad and waste time and chem?
If youre short production.. then youre short.. take the cheque and be done with it!

Dont bother with heat or reglone. Either 1 of those costs 0.75 to 1 bushel/ ac in chem cost alone.
You wont lose it in a bin. Throw an opi cable in there or turn on the fans for a week.
Yeah. I don’t want to spend any money on this crop if I can help it. I have all my pulses in the hopper bottoms with air to dry down the grasshoppers and was planning on putting my canola in big flat bottoms (3607/3907) with full floor air and filling about 1/3 full.
 
#5 ·
I don’t want to derail my own thread here but funny little Gleaner side story. My mother in law came out from BC to cook for us at harvest for many years. One day when she was delivering meals she saw some old silver combines cutting in the neighbours fields. She asked if they were homemade combines as they looked like a bunch of pieces of scrap stitched together.
 
#9 ·
I agree that aeration will probably do the trick. Will actually aerate better with that MOG in the sample that clean canola. If you wait and do nothing you may very well wind up with more green growth and a bigger problem. Could try cutting higher to leave as much of the green growth below behind.
 
#13 ·
That looks like good harvest conditions here a lot of years. The green material will try to turn into silage very fast without air. It keeps fine with air. But keep in mind that the green material will build up at the walls, where there is dead airspace and will never dry. So it does require turning eventually.
I'm not sure I would take a chance on filling the big flat bottom one third full, unless you have a way to level the peak out. You will have only a few feet of grain at the walls, and 20 ft in the center. The difference in static pressure from the walls to the center will be so great that no air will come up through the deepest mass of grain. If you can't level the peak, probably better off feeling the bins at least you will have more even airflow throughout.
 
#35 ·
Roundup ready. In 2015 though. Prior to us having group 2, 4, and 9 resistant kochia. The good old days.

Didn’t rain all year. Somehow grew 15 bushel crop. Swathed them all and the day we finished swathing it’s rained 2”. Fertilized for a 45 bushel crop, so plants decided to give it another shot at growing. That was luckily our last field. Managed to get it off without too much trouble. Had the sense to take a few pictures the last day to remind me what farming is like sometimes. A few places you couldn’t find the swath.
 
#33 ·
If you have enough truck space, leave on the truck for at least 12 hours for the moisture to equalize between the green material and the dry seed.

When you unload the truck it will mix that moisture up so you have a more even mix in the grain bin and then turn the fans on.

Do not fill the bins very full. Air flow drops quick as grain depth goes up
 
#40 ·
Use Li700 with all glyph passes.
Have done some trial work with a fairly well known agronomist in northern alberta and also had great discussions re surfactant with Sprayer guru...
And generally it definitely helps. If you are adding it into the cheaper glyphs * startup..rt540..etc* it will usually increase surfactant load to a stronger rate than weathermax ( which may be the biggest scam on the plantet in regards to ag chem). I only say that because it comes with a " guarantee" but when i used to work for big ag and we had a customer complaint
..... monsanto ( owner at time) just left it with our retail. There is no guarantee.. use the cheapest glyph you can and add aftermarket surfactants. The chem company/ retail will sell u the high priced stuff but always always alllllwaysss find a reason that you screwed it up somehow.
Li700 is good but i would honestly look at using interlock instead. Its a new product but i think it does a better job as a wetting agent and drift control in adverse conditions.
Thats the key here.. adverse conditions ( which in western canada is 85% of the time)
On 25 degree calm mid to high humidity days in june... no surfactant is usually required. However, this time of year an added surfactant ( or weathermax if that tickles your fancy) can ABSOLUTELY help you attain whatever goal you are trying to achieve be it weed control or harvest aid.
 
#41 ·
I did a test earlier this year with some generic 4 lb gly and a couple different adjuvants. I used LI-700, Ag-Wet 41, and R-11. I sprayed strips of fallow from last years canola crop. Lots of volunteer canola, mustards, and prickly lettuce. The LI-700 and R-11 were pretty close in performance, and both totally out performed the Ag-Wet 41.

LI-700 has been my go to product for a few years now and my test only confirmed that. I run 24 oz per 100 gallons of water, which is enough to lower my pH to about 5.0. While LI-700 isn't cheap, I'm only applying 4 GPA of water so a little goes a long ways.