I haven’t looked but does HC have Broad Beans included?
I’ll be doing fabas with my 50 this harvest & I can’t see them being a problem with or without HC.

 

I haven’t got the machine yet so time will tell what’s in the crop list. Sales man was a little underwhelming with some of the detail 🤔.
They’re usually (fabas) not that hard to harvest. As long as they’re dried down properly. Just hoping to get a feel for the whole system before wheat starts and the pressure is on!

 

Hah ...... it does not surprise me one bit that sales knows FA about HC or FRC functionality.
Both definitely work ..... HOWEVER ..... the machine MUST BE setup & all calibrated correctly for a start to give HC & FRC the opportunity to work properly.
There's also some learning that you need to do. Each parameter of HC & FRC have an affect of performance & you must understand what each of the changes in parameters or even loss sensitivity does to the machine.
It WILL take you a few days to come to some understanding of how the system works. THEN .... you can tweak each parameter (one at a time) to gain further improvement in machine output.

 

Hah ...... it does not surprise me one bit that sales knows FA about HC or FRC functionality.
Both definitely work ..... HOWEVER ..... the machine MUST BE setup & all calibrated correctly for a start to give HC & FRC the opportunity to work properly.
There's also some learning that you need to do. Each parameter of HC & FRC have an affect of performance & you must understand what each of the changes in parameters or even loss sensitivity does to the machine.
It WILL take you a few days to come to some understanding of how the system works. THEN .... you can tweak each parameter (one at a time) to gain further improvement in machine output.

You it’s crazy, we must have the same sales guy? It seems that they don’t know **** about **** on these newer machines, he’ll mine has told me we don’t need to run auto steer on ours, “completely unnecessary”. Yeah I can steer myself but it’s way easier for the machine to do it, and don’t get me started about any sort of setup for different crops.

 

YouTube can likely teach you more than your sales guy on Case combine automation. Louis (the Canada combine guru) talks about automation at the 3hr 27min mark on this video:

 

Hope you charge for your lessons

 

I do ..... & people are prepared to pay as they receive relevant information & practical advice from someone who has "skin in the game".

 

had that for two years and yet to see the salesman come out and teach me..... Ive found it best to tweak your settings manually like normal, then try the HC and compare and retweak. The biggest problem ive found with it, is thats its reactive and not proactive. Would be awesome for all flat fields with consistent soil types. Ive seen the best results using in barley so far.

 

I'm sure there's more than one way to skin a cat ..... but this is what I've found works.
FIRSTLY ..... make absolutely sure the machine is setup & calibrated from front to back & side to side before you start any harvesting. Automation IS NOT going to fix a poorly setup machine.
I have a work condition set up for each crop & I call it STANDARD. It's my basic starting settings for everything.
"Performance" strategy.
Target speed is just under where I think it would run at ....... all adjusted up or down later.
70-80% max engine load ...... adjusted up or down later.
Initial settings - "current setup" ..... which is my STANDARD work condition.
I select "medium" thrashing. Medium just gives a higher rotor range.
Pick a max rotor speed for what you're harvesting ...... but keep in mind HC will often run higher rotor speeds than you have previously. Higher RPM creates higher centrifugal forces.
Rotor loss sensitivity is greater on new models where the loss sensor are close to the last separator module. Often the loss number (sensitivity) is half of what you would normally have run. All needs to be ground truthed later.
Sieve loss 35-40
Tailings-MOG-Broken Grain start at 15 to 20. You WILL be changing these numbers to get it all to work properly ...... but only by 1 to 3 numbers per time ...... & one at a time. Don't use the "that's too much" - "more allowed" etc. as this changes the sensitivity number by a large amount.
Feed Rate Sensitivity - Medium
Ranges ....... don't restrict the ranges of any listed here too much as you want the "monkey in the box" to give the machine every possible chance of achieving maximum capacity within your acceptable loss requirements. One acception here is the pre-cleaner. HC tends to open the pre-cleaner too wide in canola especially. And then you're trying to fix it up by adjusting the MOG sensitivity ...... but it just doesn't quite work out properly. So limiting the pre-cleaner range to a max of 6 or 8mm is the go. I presume the next version of HC will most likely change this factor. Either way it's a good learning & training experience to work out what affects what here.
One thing - you need to be patient with HC in the first few hours. It takes time to "learn" & it takes time for you to understand what its trying to do in each parameter.
Once you've got an understanding of what influences what ....... then you can adjust max speed or max HP .... up a bit & see what happens. It can take up to 15 minutes for a change you've made to any setting - to work through the machine & gain a better performance outcome. Just remember to adjust those sensitivity numbers in small increments ..... then wait & watch.
The more the machine does in HC & FRC, the better & better it gets. Absolutely remarkable what it can do - day in day out - it will beat the best operator. No doubt about it.

 

I’ll have to walk you through a Claas auto settings menu Rod…you know, in case you ever get close to Canada!

 

Well you just never know when I’ll bang on your door …… 😉