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Header Height Calibration

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#1 ·
I wanted to let others know that if you are unhappy with your automatic header height control, it could be due to how it was calibrated.

Jeff at Headsight has told me some machines have issues with calibration. He could explain it better than me, but part of it has to do with a "loose" connection between the header and the combine faceplate. Long story short, I calibrated our MacDon FD70 (with Headsight Tilt Kit) just like normal only this time, I blocked the feederhouse up from the ground at the point the header height sensors were at full compression, or in the down position.

Maybe it is a fluke, but my height control has never been better, in particular with how it handles resuming automatic height control from a raised position. Before, it would slam down too quickly, even with Automatic Drop Rate at -50. Now I can have it in the positive range and it is comfortable. If it matters, CEBIS is on version 3.2.5. Some of the newer models don't have this issue as I understand it.

Thanks Jeff and all others who help out here.

While on the topic, I have a question about AHHC.

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Which of these settings alter vertical AUTOMATIC height control? I know the top one does.

Thanks
 
#2 · (Edited)
Thanks-- Glad it helped! I suspected the MacDon type heads would be performing the same way as the cornheads, etc...same basic symptom of "slam to ground on Activation".

Here are a few paragraphs copied from the Headsight Lexion manual:

Symptom: When the CAC system is engaged, the header dives into the ground, then recovers to the preset height.

Cause:
For machines with 2011-2014 OEM Lexion software, play in the connection between the header and feeder house can cause the calibration process to not work correctly. If your feeder can drop more than ½” after the header solid frame (not flex cutterbar skids) touches the ground, it is recommended that you use one of the two following solutions.

(Note: the float springs on a MacDon head , or stubble stompers on a corn head, can cause the same results)

Solution 1:
6/700 series combines with SN’s starting with C67, C68, or C69 and later should have the software updated to at least VBM 3.6.3 to eliminate this issue. Earlier machines, see solution 2.


Solution 2:
1. Remove or chain up any stubble stompers so they do not carry header weight during calibration.

2. Use blocks under the feeder faceplate to stop further movement downward during the calibration process. The block height should be enough to stop the feeder just as the solid frame of the head contacts the ground (not flex cutterbar skids). This procedure works for all 6/700 combines.


Note: for the MAcDon, Seedcleaner's approach of stopping the feeder just as the float optimizer "bottoms out" the sensor(s) would be correct.

For those with inquiring minds...it has to do with the way Lexion early 700 software calibrates the Lift Pressure during the calibration. And the fact that the head drops looking for that calibrated pressure upon activation.


Your picture didn't come thru, But I assume it was the "Sensitivity CAC" page: The following three are pretty much your only settings.
"Cutting Height Adjustment" is actually height sensitivity.
"Lateral leveling" is tilt sensitivity.
"Automatic Drop Rate" controls drop in Auto, separate from "Fast Manual Lowering"

I will note that selecting a certain header type in Cebis can also affect AHC...for instance header width seems to affect lateral settings, and "Aftermarket Corn head" seems to be different from a standard Lexion head. I don't know details.
 
#3 ·
I'll try the picture again. I don't understand why it doesn't come up. I back them up online and "share" them before copying the image address for the forum. It even shows up when I go to an incognito mode on Chrome and view the thread signed out.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n...fiOkiZaNawddlWJlHcVuURs_V4OMFXtz_MYbLp90kROYJ3fRG0trRdimM_bV2efQQ=w1440-h810-no

I am almost surprised that header width would affect lateral tilt.

So which header should I select for MacDon? I think I currently have it on "header from another make"