Ummm, can't read the article without an account.

 

Doh!

Sorry I forgot about that....

 

Copy and paste and walah!

 

Well it was thread not an official article announcement ..which adds a bit of oddness to the whole thing.
The Rome Plow Company is supposedly going to manufacture them.

They have a photo shop pic of the only Big Bud in England with CaseIH tracks (Yes quite terrible pic & Yes, it supposedly will be offered with tracks.) Their will be a 655 or 755hp version, or whatever power level you need built. Sorry, the specifics are quite vague at this point. BTW, it was at the 2016 Farm Progress show in Boone, Iowa.

Here is a quote off the thread on Toy Tractor Times.


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I talked to the Rome rep at the show today.* They are shooting for a big horsepower, heavyweight, simpler tractor.* Right now they are looking at Cat and Detroit Diesel and maybe Cummins for engines.* Will be available as wheeled or quad track.* Engines will be Tier IV.* Bigger cabs than the competition, with almost a full size buddy seat.* Looking at 655 and 755 horsepower sizes for now, with smaller sizes maybe in the future.* Less electronics than the competition.* They are working with Ron, but I didn't ask about the Williams Bros.* They are shooting for pricing to be equal to Deere or Case, but be 100 hp bigger.

 

About time they did away with all the electronic garbage on a tractor. A tractor with 700 HP hooked to an implement doesn't need electric shift and clutch yada yada. What pieces of crap. A comfy seat and quiet cab with good A/C and heater with a good view of your area around the machine is all anyone needs. Put a big hydraulic pump to accommodate today's drills and a proper place for guidance system. This generation of tractors lost all of their dependability when they started making high tech garbage to run the whole tractor. You push the clutch maybe 8 times a day at the most. most of us need the exercise lol. You hope you have warranty when it piles up on you due to the many things that could cause you grief. I have read on this forum of dealers not being able to trouble shoot some of the electrical problems and tractor owners coming on this forum looking for answers. Warranty or not if your drill is sitting in the field because they can't fix it, what good is that? Poor mechanics must just pull their hair out with the way this stuff is designed. I wouldn't want to be a mechanic in this day and age.

 

After talking to hundred of farmers and many dealers, I will sign on every word of the above. That's why our tractors (MTZ Equipment, 84-430 hp) offer nothing but basics: AC/Heat/Radio. No computers, No DEF, No complicated electronics, No crazy sensors.

 

But apparently this is the future. Definitely not in mine though, driving machinery is about the only fun left in farming.

http://www.caseih.com/northamerica/...case_ih_reveals_new_tagline_new_focus_and_a_new_autonomous_concept_vehicle.aspx

 

Skynet is a coming..:27:

 

The autonomous tech is great but ultimately comes down to affordability. Ag and industrial tech is super expensive compared to mainstream tech as it needs to be more durable and there is not as many pieces manufactured so economy of scale isn't realized. Its coming though.

 

I'd be stuck and pulling out the unit more then It would be working.

 

Yeah in that industry I imagine everyone doing work knows each other. And likely JD R&D teams up with different people at different times. ASI has done a lot of work with a lot of companies but rarely gets publicly credited. I know at the time they were working on some JD tractors Deere never mentioned them publicly at all. It's nice that CNH lists them as a partner in this endeavor. This is the kind of thing they've been working on for many years now. They have some military contracts, and also I think they do all the autonomous hardware for Chrysler's vehicle proving ground. It's exciting stuff.

 

A driverless tractor! But isn't that why we had children?????

 

I'm sure it will work fine in the field, but how the heck are you supposed to get it down the road when the ****ty driver convention is in town? That thing is going to stop in the middle of the road and just give up at some point.

 

A Minnesota highway and that thing would spell disaster!

Wait.... Let's make it sugar beet harvest!

 

TransPerth in Perth west Australia is currently trialling a driverless shuttle bus.

 

Anybody hear anymore on the buds? Think it will make the other companies kick some bigger tractors out or will it be like the last go around? Kind of excited to see one with tracks.

 

I hope it makes manufacturers rethink all the bells and whistles and useless crap they put on tractors driving up prices. Bring back over built simple to operate tractors.

 

We run 3 generations of Big Bud tractors and can say in all honesty it is refreshing to operate a tractor that we can work on. Being all steel we can cut, chop, and weld throughout the tractor without fear of melting plastic or rubber. I'm seeding with a first gen Bud and I've got a fuller transmission. If this thing fails I can find another used 13 speed for less than $1500 and can replace the clutch for under $600. With this said after thousands of hours we've only replaced a clutch maybe twice and have never had a transmission fail. Combine this with 70,000lb Clark axles and you've got a extremely reliable and cool running drivetrain that won't break the bank if something fails. Powershifts are really nice but at $30,000-$50,000 to rebuild or replace, it's hard to justify. I really hope Rome Plow stays true to Buds legacy and embraces less tech for more simplicity. We would love to be put on the pre-order list but I'm betting they start at $450,000. So hopefully some guys will buy them and run em a few thousand hours and sell so farms like us can afford one!

 

Love your videos, especially the Time Lapse Restoration vid.:28:

I figure the construction folks will love them. The world economy thing makes me kinda skeptical, but hopefully it works out for the best.

 

Thank you! I never expected they'd be so popular but since they are I'll continue to put a few together a year. Our 2nd Gen KT-450 is on its last leg with 10,000 plus hours on the original engine. We came across a mid 80's versatile 1150 with a bad transmission but a solid 1150 cummins engine and so this winter we plan on doing the same kind of restoration to the 450. This new 1150 is tuned at 525 so it's gonna powerhouse. Originally we planned on putting a N-14 red top in her but it is much easier to stick with the k engine. I'll make sure to have it all in a new time lapse. In a month or so I should have a new video on YouTube. If it comes together as I envision, it should be the best yet.


I completely agree though, I think the new Buds will have a good future in the construction/earth moving industry

 

You think 10,000 hrs is alot for that engine? Is it burning oil or what's going on? Should be just into broke in IMO

 

A few years ago it started to get fuel dilution in the oil. We made a big mistake by not having the injectors checked immediately as the front injector scored the cylinder and piston. We had the injector replaced but due to the cost of opening up an old k engine we decided to run her till she died. Cold it would puff lots of blue and white smoke but when at operating temp with boost the smoke would clean up. Also the crank case has excessive pressure which all adds up to leaking compression from the damaged jug. Last week while seeding winter wheat she started knocking and then locked up. We pulled it back and to our surprise after cooling down it still started and runs with no knocking. Also the oil cooler must have blown an o ring and pumped almost all the engine oil into the radiator. So considering costs $1500 just to replace the front gasket in order to get to the head and then $3000 per cylinder to replace we decided it'd be better to update to a newer engine such as a n14 red top. But this versatile with a 3700 hr smoh for $12,000 makes the most sense. These kt 1150 engines are powerhouses but sure pricy to work on.

 

This one looks near done.

 

At first glance I thought it was a Steiger cab - but it's not. Is that a late model Big Bud cab?

 

As far as I can tell it's the Series IV ROPS cab....

That is Glinz's old 950/50 now with the Cat 3508...The QSK23 Cummins had an oil leak and wiped it out..thus the 3508.

Now the new Buds will be built in Georgia at Rome Plow Company. Haven't seen anything come to fruition yet or anything substantive to report. As far as I know Big Equipment Company will continue to restore old Buds and modernize the guts and nervous systems. The 950 is done and is waiting on good weather to ship back to Texas.

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On a side note for Big Tractor Aficionados and Big Buds in general..The History of Big Bud book is out now. I know I know yall are surprised I got mine in the other day...I feel my so called Big Bud Expertise is in jeopardy Lol...Seriously pick one up. Around 30 bux...they are on Big Equipment's and Heritage Iron's Facebook pages. ********

 

There is quite a few of them there and the newer looking ones have the same cab.

 

bigbudluvr - rear window is angled in at bottom? doors are different? Cab roof looks like it is bolted on?

 

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Here are some Series IV. Look pretty similar too me at least..I know they maybe aren't perfect to compare.

 

Big Bud auto steer demo. I'm not savvy on this stuff or how "Latest" this Autosteer/GPS is..

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1741931442786112&id=1521881994791059

 

always thought they were a good looking tractor.

 

From Havre Daily News article, June 29 2017:

Harmon said Rome Industries, a Farm Equipment manufacturer in Cedartown, Georgia, will start building new Big Bud tractors under contract with Big Equipment in 2018.

 

New Big Buds.......that'll be the day......when pigs fly and John Deere drops the green paint and pretty yella wheels. :tongue:

Exciting news for sure. Although the tier 4 engine kinda shoots "simple" in the foot.

According to a Mil Stack rep, equipment manufactures only have to comply with tier 3 standards if they sell less than 300 units per year. Any truth to this? If yes, I wonder if BB/Rome would custom build a tractor with a tier 3 engine (Cummins QST 30 anyone?)

 

No, that is not exactly correct.
Such exemption is available, but for BUD size of tractor the exemption runs only till 2018.
For 2019-2020 they may qualify for Tier 4i, which are still simpler than Tier 4 final engines.
Afterwards everyone must go with Tier 4 Final.