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Thanks, Transaxial I've only seen the 8xx with the transmission failures and I think they were all going down the road as well, this was some years back that the dealer was replacing the tranny in the crawlers but they said the new ones fixed the issue. I just think it had to be a oil or speed issue, so the too small of a oil journal made sense at hi speed it couldn't keep things cool. I haven't heard of any 4wd units with failures, as all the ones locally are on scrapers and have had no problems, the local cat dealer had 2 965b's as rental units with close to 10,000 hrs on both without any issues, so it's kinda of a mystery. However for a while I believe that Versatile didn't offer a PS in anything big that took a ta 22, just the smaller ones that took the ta 19 and now I believe PS is standard in all their tractors, so maybe Cat got the 22 right?
 
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